Remington Model 1911 UMC

[Shooter5]

Why did RemUMC get into the pistol business? Where they and others looking to expand into more government contracts? Was Colt and Springfield production not enough to meet demand?
I can see why WW2 production occurred at different mfg's but it seems that in WW1 by the time the US stepped in the end ended relatively soon after.

[alanroseman]

It sold to a collector...

Hello All,

Thanks for your contributions and opinions regards the 1911 UMC. Since posting here last evening, the gun sold to a collector who saw it on this site.

It sold for an amount consistent with that offered by James. T Julia...

It's been quite a learning experience for me.

Cheers,

[alanroseman]

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More importantly, they know what they're looking at. There was zero hesitation from a few knowledgeable collectors.

Great job with this Board & Forum!!

Cheers, Alan

[Johnny P]

Why did RemUMC get into the pistol business? Where they and others looking to expand into more government contracts? Was Colt and Springfield production not enough to meet demand?
I can see why WW2 production occurred at different mfg's but it seems that in WW1 by the time the US stepped in the end ended relatively soon after.

There was a huge shortage of handguns to equip the troops when the U.S. got into WWI. Ordnance went to Colt and S&W to buy revolvers since the models were already in production, and only minor changes were needed to meet the military needs.

Remington-UMC ended up with a contract 500,000 Model 1911 pistols, but the war ended and slightly less than 22,000 were delivered before the contract was cancelled.

In addition to Remington-UMC, contracts were also issued to eight other firms for the manufacture of the Model 1911, but the war ended and the contracts cancelled with no pistols being delivered.

[PhillipM]

Why did RemUMC get into the pistol business? Where they and others looking to expand into more government contracts? Was Colt and Springfield production not enough to meet demand?
I can see why WW2 production occurred at different mfg's but it seems that in WW1 by the time the US stepped in the end ended relatively soon after.

There was a huge shortage of handguns to equip the troops when the U.S. got into WWI. Ordnance went to Colt and S&W to buy revolvers since the models were already in production, and only minor changes were needed to meet the military needs.

Remington-UMC ended up with a contract 500,000 Model 1911 pistols, but the war ended and slightly less than 22,000 were delivered before the contract was cancelled.

In addition to Remington-UMC, contracts were also issued to eight other firms for the manufacture of the Model 1911, but the war ended and the contracts cancelled with no pistols being delivered.

Because Springfield embarrassingly could not produce enough rifles for the war, they stopped production of the 1911 to increase 1903 production.

[Johnny P]

Because Springfield embarrassingly could not produce enough rifles for the war, they stopped production of the 1911 to increase 1903 production.

Springfield Armory Model 1911 production was never high enough to make much of a difference. The first order for 1911 pistols from Springfield Armory was placed in late 1912. By the end of pistol production in 1917 they had managed to produce slightly under 26,000 pistols.

Springfield Armory was never geared up to mass produced huge quantities of weapons, and probably never anticipated having to supply weapons for the magnitude of a world war.