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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    Rusty Rem-Rand

    I recently acquired this pistol with a serial range of early 1945. On the left side front it is heavily rusted and speckled rust down that side. Upon taking it apart there is rust under both plastic grip panels. Pistol is all original with a need of being refinished. The slide is in good shape as is the barrel and all internals.
    Upon doing research I plan on using the LaRue products to fill in any pits and finish in Parkerizing to try and match the correct factory finish. Slide is tight to frame and no rust on the rails so that is good. The pistol was given to me so I have nothing in it with the exception of trying to make it back into a shooter.
    Sam
  • JOHN COOK
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 711

    #2
    Sam, if you have a battery charger try electrolysis. I have used this on several old tools and it works really good. It removes rust in tight places you can’t get by hand. Use this process outside on your deck, it releases Hydrogen and you need to let it go to the atmosphere..

    j cook in SC
    “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      Originally posted by JOHN COOK
      Sam, if you have a battery charger try electrolysis. I have used this on several old tools and it works really good. It removes rust in tight places you can’t get by hand. Use this process outside on your deck, it releases Hydrogen and you need to let it go to the atmosphere..

      j cook in SC
      I watched several do this on YouTube and I am going to give this a try. Going to Menards tomorrow to pick up the needed items to do this. You are right about this being a possible explosive situation as Hydrogen and Oxygen are given off in this process. After this is done I have 0000 steel wool to buff the affected areas. On Monday I will order the needed supplies from my smithing supplies Brownells.
      Sam

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11268

        #4
        scrub it good, with a good degreaser/cleaner, stiff brush etc,
        not something that will take off finish just get the crud and rust off (oily bit of 000 Steel Wool works well, but keep it wet and go easy)


        eta, or take the grips off and soak it in a tub of Kero for a few days, then clean,

        then wipe it dry and post pics,

        I would say that what is left of the original finish is better than a redo,

        but it is your pistol,
        Last edited by lyman; 09-25-2020, 04:55.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by lyman
          scrub it good, with a good degreaser/cleaner, stiff brush etc,
          not something that will take off finish just get the crud and rust off (oily bit of 000 Steel Wool works well, but keep it wet and go easy)


          eta, or take the grips off and soak it in a tub of Kero for a few days, then clean,

          then wipe it dry and post pics,

          I would say that what is left of the original finish is better than a redo,

          but it is your pistol,
          Never thought of this, have it in penetrating oil and will scrub it with 0000 steel wool today and see what is there. It might not be as bad as it looks is my hope. Refinishing is a last resort.
          Sam

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            Never thought of this, have it in penetrating oil and will scrub it with 0000 steel wool today and see what is there. It might not be as bad as it looks is my hope. Refinishing is a last resort.
            Sam

            as it should be ,

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            • Sunray
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3251

              #7
              "...will scrub it with 0000 steel wool..." It's not a 'scrubbing' job. It's a gently rub with 0000 steel wool and oil. Usually on blued steel.
              A light touch with a fine brass wire wheel in a bench grinder works well and is a lot faster. Operative words being 'light touch'. Eye protection is mandatory.
              The real issue is the thing pitted or not? There's no fixing pitting.
              Spelling and grammar count!

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              • S.A. Boggs
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 8568

                #8
                Originally posted by Sunray
                "...will scrub it with 0000 steel wool..." It's not a 'scrubbing' job. It's a gently rub with 0000 steel wool and oil. Usually on blued steel.
                A light touch with a fine brass wire wheel in a bench grinder works well and is a lot faster. Operative words being 'light touch'. Eye protection is mandatory.
                The real issue is the thing pitted or not? There's no fixing pitting.
                I talked with the authority on firearms [Brownells] and I am going to redo the finish. The receiver is too badly discolored so a refinish is in order. I have ordered the rust stripper that was recommended. I am going to take with LaRue tomorrow on their parkerize finish. LaRue has a process to fill pits that looks promising as well. The lettering is clear and was only lightly rusted so it cleared up well. I took pictures but the light just doesn't work so I am going to try something elst to shoot pictures.
                If not LaRue then I will do the park from Brownells.
                Sam

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                • Johnny P
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6259

                  #9
                  The phosphate "Parkerized" finish is a built up finish and any type of wire wheel will remove the finish. Trying to remove the rust even with 4/0 steel wool will remove the phosphate finish before it removes the rust. The military would have refinished it, as most of their 1911/1911A1 pistols had been.

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                  • Tuna
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2686

                    #10
                    Being that its a Remington it will soon be in high demand by collectors. Remington was taken apart by the bankruptcy court and all of the parts offered for sale to the highest bidder. Ruger got Marlin and a group got the ammo portion. The rifle end is still up for grabs but most of the rest has been sold off. But soon anything Remington will like Winchester before it take on a new set of values. Very sad to see another great firearm maker gone.

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                    • gwp
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1088

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tuna
                      Being that its a Remington it will soon be in high demand by collectors. Remington was taken apart by the bankruptcy court and all of the parts offered for sale to the highest bidder. Ruger got Marlin and a group got the ammo portion. The rifle end is still up for grabs but most of the rest has been sold off. But soon anything Remington will like Winchester before it take on a new set of values. Very sad to see another great firearm maker gone.
                      Remington Rand (1927–1955) was an early American business machines manufacturer, best known originally as a typewriter manufacturer

                      From 1942 to 1945, Remington Rand was one manufacturer of the M1911A1 .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol used by the United States Armed Forces during World War II. Remington Rand produced more M1911A1 pistols than any other wartime manufacturer. Remington Rand ranked 66th among United States corporations in the value of World War II military production contracts.

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                      • Tuna
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2686

                        #12
                        Many gun makers were diverse in what they made besides firearms. Colt for example made electrical switches and breakers. All had to keep the work flowing during times when firearms were not selling.

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                        • Johnny P
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6259

                          #13
                          It was not made by Remington Arms. It was made by Remington Rand who was a manufacturer of typewriters, office equipment, and such. Remington Rand got off to a bad start early in production and shut down production until all the bugs were worked out. Under new supervision Remington Rand went on to become the highest production lowest cost producer of the 1911A1.

                          Remington-UMC did manufacture the Model 1911 pistol in WWI.

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #14
                            Started the redoing of the receiver today. First I placed the receiver into a plastic tray with Dawn soap and hot water to take off any oil, dirt that was there. I now have it soaking in Evapo-Rust to clean the rust off the metal and then I will go from there. Was going to do the electrolysis but not a secure area to do it in now.
                            Sam

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                            • Johnny P
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6259

                              #15
                              Will be curious to know if the Evapo-Rust affects the phosphate finish.

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