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  • gfguns
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 264

    #1

    Squad Cleaning Kit info needed

    I am looking for a good source of info on the M1912 squad cleaning kits including details on all components. I have quite an assortment of rods brushes etc. in the few kits I have and would like to determine what is correct.
    Thanks
    Greg
    Last edited by gfguns; 07-04-2013, 07:08.
  • 1563621
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1103

    #2
    I would need to see pics. WW1 rods were brass, WW2 parked, WW1 brushes were hog bristle, WW1 cans were brass with the wood insert in the can. WW2 cans were parked with no wood in can.

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    • Charlie Flick
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 145

      #3
      GF:

      This image shows what the contents were for the WW2 version of the Kit.



      Take a look at these threads on the US Militaria Forum where this subject has been explored at some length:

      http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

      http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

      http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

      Regards,
      Charlie

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      • Johnny P
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 6260

        #4
        Meadow's "U.S. Military Automatic Pistols Volume II/1920-1945" describes the different cleaning kits.

        WWI brass cleaning rods seem to be more common than the WWII phosphate rods, or at least it is harder to get a complete set from one manufacturer.

        This is an odd one thought to have been issued in the late 1930's early 1940's. The rods are marked U.H.CO. and are bare steel. The box lid is marked with a drawing number and the bottom has a different drawing number. The wood insert is stamped with a drawing number, and each rod rack has it's own drawing number. The box is marked on the bottom CLIMAX.

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        • Scott Gahimer
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 899

          #5
          Here is a more common kit.
          The box is blued steel. The (10) cleaning rods, oiler and grease pot are brass. Included are (10) bristle brushes and (10) fire blued L-shaped takedown tools manufactured by Colt. The wooden tray and rack is removable.

          Solutions for M1911 Buyers & Sellers

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          • gfguns
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 264

            #6
            OK I will get some pictures posted this weekend, thanks for your reply

            Originally posted by 1563621
            I would need to see pics. WW1 rods were brass, WW2 parked, WW1 brushes were hog bristle, WW1 cans were brass with the wood insert in the can. WW2 cans were parked with no wood in can.
            Last edited by gfguns; 07-06-2013, 04:42.

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            • gfguns
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 264

              #7
              Thanks for the links. I haven't had a chance to study all three but I going to get into it tonight.

              Originally posted by Charlie Flick
              GF:

              This image shows what the contents were for the WW2 version of the Kit.



              Take a look at these threads on the US Militaria Forum where this subject has been explored at some length:

              http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

              http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

              http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...leaning+%2Bkit

              Regards,
              Charlie

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              • gfguns
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 264

                #8
                Nice looking Johnny. Mine is all steel, not Climax and appears to be pieced together. I have a few numbered cleaning rods and the balance unmarked. Also the brushes look like they were bought yesterday. Pictures and more info to follow. Thanks for the reply and picture.

                Originally posted by Johnny P
                Meadow's "U.S. Military Automatic Pistols Volume II/1920-1945" describes the different cleaning kits.

                WWI brass cleaning rods seem to be more common than the WWII phosphate rods, or at least it is harder to get a complete set from one manufacturer.

                This is an odd one thought to have been issued in the late 1930's early 1940's. The rods are marked U.H.CO. and are bare steel. The box lid is marked with a drawing number and the bottom has a different drawing number. The wood insert is stamped with a drawing number, and each rod rack has it's own drawing number. The box is marked on the bottom CLIMAX.

                Last edited by gfguns; 07-05-2013, 03:53.

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                • gfguns
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 264

                  #9
                  Thanks Scott...I do have one like this but I bought it less the bore brushes which I ended up buying from a collector friend of mine. Nice looking kit.

                  Originally posted by Scott Gahimer
                  Here is a more common kit.
                  The box is blued steel. The (10) cleaning rods, oiler and grease pot are brass. Included are (10) bristle brushes and (10) fire blued L-shaped takedown tools manufactured by Colt. The wooden tray and rack is removable.

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                  • gfguns
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 264

                    #10
                    Here are some pictures of one of my kits. I question the originality of the brushes and two of the three types of cleaning rods. The pictures should tell the rest of the story> I have not looked at the Meadows book yet because I wanted to get the pictures up first. As usual I will do some studying now that I have spent the money.












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                    Last edited by gfguns; 07-06-2013, 04:51. Reason: Add text

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                    • gfguns
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 264

                      #11
                      More pictures










                      Last edited by gfguns; 07-06-2013, 09:25.

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                      • gfguns
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 264

                        #12
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                        • Johnny P
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6260

                          #13
                          WWII era cleaning rods.

                          Left to right: U.H.CO., O'HARE MFG. CO. (large logo), and O'HARE MFG. CO. (small logo).

                          Top: USCB CO C64102-4 (marked on shank)

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                          • ebeeby
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 687

                            #14
                            If anyone knows where I can get some WWI hog bristle brushes for my kit I sure would appreciate it.

                            Eric
                            "Socialism is the Philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." ~Winston Churchill

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                            • Duane Hansen
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 992

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ebeeby
                              If anyone knows where I can get some WWI hog bristle brushes for my kit I sure would appreciate it.

                              Eric
                              The Hog Bristle Brushes for the early Squad Cleaning Kits are very hard to find. Someone was making reproduction examples a while back and I've seen a few of them, but I don't know who made them or even where to get them. Bill Ricca has had some parts at different times in the past but don't know what he has now, if anything. www.billricca.com is the site if I remember correctly.

                              Right now it looks like he is only offering the steel cans and the screwdrivers. Worth a look for other 1911 and 1911A1 parts too.
                              Last edited by Duane Hansen; 07-07-2013, 02:10.

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