1911s SUCK........

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  • Guamsst
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9753

    #16
    Originally posted by PhillipM
    I became frustrated trying to hear what the guy in the video response was saying over the off camera gun fire and wind noise.
    The thing you really needed to hear in the video response was BANG ping....... BANG ping.........BANG ping....... BANG ping.........BANGpingBANGping........BANG ping.
    I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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    • m1ashooter
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 3220

      #17
      I love this country. It allows everyone to have an opinion. I only have two handguns, both are 1911's. I don't feel I have a need for any other handgun. I like steel.
      To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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      • Tuna
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2686

        #18
        Wiki is quite often more often wrong then right about firearms. I think you will find that John Browning licensed the rights to his 1911 to Colt and still owned then outright. He was approached by the French while working with FN to produce a possible multi shot pistol for them using their round which was the 7.65 French long and that was a direct copy of the US 30 Pedersen round. He was well on his way with this pistol when he died and a fellow employee at FN took up the design and finished it making it the famous Browning Hi-Power. John Browning did make changes to this design that he felt were in need of updating like no barrel bushing or barrel link and pin but the basic design is still the same between then 1911 and the Hi-Power and both continue on today.
        Last edited by Tuna; 07-19-2013, 05:05.

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        • Johnny P
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 6259

          #19
          There were preliminary tests leading up to the final 6000 round test between the Savage and the Colt pistols, and this is the information on the actual test. From Ordnance records:

          "The two pistols were then thoroughly examined, oiled and fired deliberately 6000 rounds each, being cleaned thoroughly, examined and oiled after each 1000 rounds. Wherever examination showed the least sign of deformation it was noted. Each pistol was fired 100 rounds and then was allowed to cool while the other was fired, giving each pistol at least 5 minutes to cool. Firing was not begun after cooling until the hand could be placed on the slide over the barrel without discomfort. There was an interval of about two seconds between shots in the same magazine when the pistol functioned normally."

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          • Johnny P
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6259

            #20
            The U.S. Ordnance Department put out the specifications for a semi-automatic pistol of .45 caliber. At the time John Browning worked for Colt, and the design that JB and the Colt engineers came up with was the pistol that was eventually accepted by the military. Colt owned the manufacturing rights to the Model 1911 pistol, and produced a civilian version known as the Government Model.

            As part of the negotiations for the Model 1911 pistol contract, Springfield Armory obtained the rights to manufacture the pistol at Springfield. This agreement was between Colt and Ordnance officials.

            The development of the pistol that became the Browning High Power had hit a snag, and it wasn't until after John Browning's death that the patent rights on the Model 1911 expired, and some features from the Model 1911 were incorporated on the HP, and it was successfully completed.

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            • The Shadow
              Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 77

              #21
              I love my 1911. I love my Glock. I'm equally confidant carrying either one. Bottom line, it's not the tool but the workman that counts.

              Terry
              U.S. Naval Gunfire Support: One Shot - Twelve Kills!

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              • Thomasm
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 114

                #22
                Somebody needs to get this data to the Marines, they've been using the wrong pistol for 100 years. But then, just mabey, all those years on the battlefield trumps his 15 million rds. (really ???) at paper targets.

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                • bobby L
                  Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 51

                  #23
                  wonder if with all those rounds fired (students)...... they actually hit anything?
                  Last edited by bobby L; 09-01-2013, 04:42.

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                  • bobby L
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 51

                    #24
                    Racking the slide of a 1911 is like sitting at a red light goosing the engine of a Corvette... all that power is mere seconds away!

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                    • John Sukey
                      Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 12224

                      #25
                      While I own a 1911, my carry gun is a Ruger P345. It has one feature the 1911 doesn't have, a double action trigger. So I can have one up the spout safely without the necessity of having the hammer cocked. I did own a Glock for about a week but traded it in.

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                      • Guamsst
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 9753

                        #26
                        Originally posted by John Sukey
                        While I own a 1911, my carry gun is a Ruger P345. It has one feature the 1911 doesn't have, a double action trigger. So I can have one up the spout safely without the necessity of having the hammer cocked. I did own a Glock for about a week but traded it in.
                        That, in my opinion is the only real drawback of the 1911. Last thing I want is an AD or to have to fight the weapon when I need it. I still love the 1911 though and so does my boss, and my mom, and now my wife....



                        I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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                        • Guamsst
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9753

                          #27
                          This was also the first time she has shot a 1911 and put less than 50rds through it. I'd say the gun fits most women pretty well and they tend to have a naturally good aim point and hold.
                          I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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                          • PhillipM
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5937

                            #28
                            The 1911 hater in the first post had his CCW license revoked. Now he can only carry a pop gun.

                            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                            • Guamsst
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9753

                              #29
                              Oh, and I wasn't looking but my wife said the woman in the next lane, shooting the modern handgun, murdered the hell out of the woman on the target and only hit the zombie 2-3 times...LOL

                              As to the guy in the video, he is obviously a serious $#!T TALKER. While I understand his frustration with gunlaws, he wasn't smart enough to control his mouth. One more reason I find his rambling unconvincing.
                              I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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                              • PhillipM
                                Very Senior Member - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5937

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Guamsst
                                Oh, and I wasn't looking but my wife said the woman in the next lane, shooting the modern handgun, murdered the hell out of the woman on the target and only hit the zombie 2-3 times...LOL

                                As to the guy in the video, he is obviously a serious $#!T TALKER. While I understand his frustration with gunlaws, he wasn't smart enough to control his mouth. One more reason I find his rambling unconvincing.
                                But wait there's more to James Yeager.



                                Yeager, driver of the lead car, engaged the parking brake on a manual car and put it into neutral because his foot/leg was starting to hurt. Then, SHF, he forgets the car is in neutral/parking brake on, tries to go and it won't go anywhere so he thinks the car is disabled and then runs across the road, jumps into a ditch, leaving behind his wounded buddies. Somehow his hype doesn't seem to match his actions.

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                                Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                                "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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