M1911A1s aboard the USS North Carolina during WWII

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  • Shooter5

    #1

    M1911A1s aboard the USS North Carolina during WWII

    The battleship curator stated its permissible to post the results of their record search: A quick glance appears to have 1937 manufacture, assorted mid 1940s and at least one 1945 production.
    (There was some other information about other types of small arms, it will be posted in the M1903 section)

    If there is a 1945 manufactured pistol on this list, that seems to indicate an inventory done late in the war years. Therefore, what is posted here might be different from the 1941 records card which showed 200 were assigned to the ship; there could be a difference from 1941 to 1945 both in terms of numbers still aboard and/or serial numbers assuming some pistols were switched out.
    The curator's research thus far has revealed this list posted below but it only has about 120 serial numbers on it. So, there might be more numbers that turn up if the other 80 or pistols from the May 1941 were still aboard in 1945. Hopefully, the remainder turn up with additional research. Someone with some free time could look in the online archives as well.

    Enclosed in the email was:

    "Custody Record Cards –
    45 cal. Model 1911 Colt automatic pistols, received 200 on 5/16/1941 (See attached for serial numbers)"

    Much thanks to the staff of the battleship for their efforts to research this request. Please cite this information as “Courtesy Battleship NORTH CAROLINA." In addition, the curator stated many of their archives are available online. (Link below)



    Our thanks to:

    Mary Ames Booker
    Curator
    Battleship NORTH CAROLINA
    curator@battleshipnc.com
    mary.booker@ncdcr.gov
    910-251-5797 ext. 3026
    E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law "NCGS.Ch.132" and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official.

    This National Historic Landmark proudly serves as her State’s WWII Memorial to the 11,000+ North Carolinians who made the ultimate sacrifice.


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    Last edited by Guest; 12-07-2013, 05:04.
  • Tuna
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2686

    #2
    120 1911 A1 pistols with lots of Remington-Rands and the rest Colts. That would be a nice assortment to see for sure.

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    • mpd1978
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 72

      #3
      Well I can account for one of the pistols on the list, half of it anyway. I've got 711699's slide in the parts bin.
      Neat, thanks for posting!

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      • glindes
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 242

        #4
        Almost... I have 1378780... Thanks!

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        • Shooter5

          #5
          MDP: if yours served the whole war, it earned 15 Battle Stars!

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          • mpd1978
            Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 72

            #6
            I wish I had the bottom half, it would be really something special to have a pistol assigned to that ship. I would love to see the rest of the1911 numbers assigned to the ship.
            Thanks

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            • Shooter5

              #7
              True…but at least your glass is HALF full!! Ha, what a piece of history.

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              • Duane Hansen
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 992

                #8
                Originally posted by mpd1978
                Well I can account for one of the pistols on the list, half of it anyway. I've got 711699's slide in the parts bin.
                Neat, thanks for posting!
                Nice, 1937 Navy range, too bad you don't have the complete pistol.....

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                • mpd1978
                  Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 72

                  #9
                  I'd like to find he bottom half of this one too...

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                  • Scott Gahimer
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 899

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tuna
                    120 1911 A1 pistols with lots of Remington-Rands and the rest Colts. That would be a nice assortment to see for sure.
                    (118) M1911A1 pistols. 1 number is repeated, another is incorrect. The fun is in figuring out which 2 numbers to skip.

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                    • Shooter5

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Scott Gahimer
                      (118) M1911A1 pistols. 1 number is repeated, another is incorrect. The fun is in figuring out which 2 numbers to skip.
                      Interesting...an possible example of cooking the books for a bring back or two?! Or, could it be that its a case of serial number overlap with manufacturers?
                      Last edited by Guest; 12-10-2013, 03:45.

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                      • Scott Gahimer
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 899

                        #12
                        Probably just mistakes. The one is not in any duplicate serial range. The other?...There weren't any pistols in the 96 million serial range.

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                        • Shooter5

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scott Gahimer
                          The other?...There weren't any pistols in the 96 million serial range.
                          LOL!!

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                          • Shooter5

                            #14
                            Got in a quick tour over the weekend. A picture from the arms room shows a board made to hold pistols. Another from the archival collections appears to show the same board.



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                            • Johnny P
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6260

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scott Gahimer
                              The other?...There weren't any pistols in the 96 million serial range.
                              But there is one in the 9 million serial number range. A local called me up to tell me about his new Ithaca, and wanted me to look at it. One look and it was obvious the pistol was a total fake, as all the slide and receiver markings had been pantographed. Only after I made pictures I noticed that what I thought was a serial number in the low 900,000 range was actually in the 9 million range. The pantograph operator had put one too many digits in the serial number, making it a really unique fake.

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