Warning. Least desireable ammo to purchase. Opinion

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  • nf1e
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2122

    #1

    Warning. Least desireable ammo to purchase. Opinion

    Picked this crap up from CMP a few years ago and added a few cans to the stash. After hearing some folks had bad results, I set it aside.
    Well, yesterday my concerns were justified. Shot 100 rnds though a few different rifles. 90% or more developed neck splits and a few cartridges didn't even have primers in the empty pockets. At 100 yds there was a variation in 7 inches vertically. Absolute worse junk I have ever used. Made the old Egyptian garbage seem like GMM.



  • nf1e
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2122

    #2
    After a little thought, very little, there are 800+ rnds on the way to the collet puller. Soon to become re-loading components minus the brass and primers.

    Just pulled down 100 rnds and the reason for inaccuracy is quite evident. Not sure what the power is but load varied almost 4 gr, from 37.9 to 41.8 with the majority around 41.4.
    Last edited by nf1e; 02-25-2020, 08:18.

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      That stuff has damaged a few rifles at CMP matches back in the day. I had major case head separation personally. I would not shoot it as is.

      I have some I plan to tear down, any info on what powder they used? Just add to the flower bed I suppose.
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • nf1e
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 2122

        #4
        Had a gentleman that live close by the producer and he claims that they were using Varget. Load weight would indicate the possibility. I plan on re-using the bullets and powder in good brass and load per Varget seeing that's my favorite powder anyway.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11266

          #5
          Originally posted by nf1e
          Had a gentleman that live close by the producer and he claims that they were using Varget. Load weight would indicate the possibility. I plan on re-using the bullets and powder in good brass and load per Varget seeing that's my favorite powder anyway.
          I know you already know this,
          but be careful and start with a lighter load and work up,

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          • nf1e
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 2122

            #6
            Originally posted by lyman
            I know you already know this,
            but be careful and start with a lighter load and work up,
            Rgr, will do. Thanks

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            • nf1e
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2122

              #7
              Hornady puller does a nice clean job for my purposes.





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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #8
                Still thinking Varget?
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • nf1e
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2122

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                  Still thinking Varget?
                  Sure does look like it.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11266

                    #10
                    digging those LED's you have on that CoAx

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                    • nf1e
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 2122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      digging those LED's you have on that CoAx
                      A little extra light on the subject helps as the eyes get older and finger pinches take longer to heal.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11266

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nf1e
                        A little extra light on the subject helps as the eyes get older and finger pinches take longer to heal.
                        very true!!

                        mind sharing where you got them?

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                        • nf1e
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 2122

                          #13
                          Worked on breaking down 600 rnds of this junk today. Great way to spend a couple of hours.





                          Separated out a few of the different head stamps.



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                          Originally posted by lyman
                          very true!!

                          mind sharing where you got them?
                          This place has all sorts of goodies for the Forster co-ax. I picked up the LEDs,roller bearing right angle handle and the offset linkage.

                          forster co ax ultramount mount stand strong mount ERGO LED Skylight quick change inline fabrication reloading ammunition ammo riser ergonomic

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11266

                            #14
                            Thanks!!!

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              Thanks!!!
                              Great company InlineFab.

                              I have their mount for my hornady press. Brings everything up to a standing height.
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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