US 7,62mm M160 Frangible cartridge

[RCS]

I have a 7,62mm US cartridge with the green and white tip and the headstamp F A 63
which is just like the 30Cal M22 Frangible cartridge of WW2.

Anyone know what weapon or weapons were used with this 7,62mm Frangible cartridge?

The WW2 30 cal Frangible used a special device attached to the Browning m/g

photo shows both 7,62mm and 30cal Frangible cartridgesDSCN1962.jpg

[lyman]

I have a Garand Clip somewhere of the .30-06,

had a big box of it, all clipped up, years ago,

sold, traded or gave away most it,


no idea if it was packed that way from a depot or factory,

[RCS]

WW2 30 cal M22 Frangible

The WW2 frangible was belted for use in a special Browning machine gun to train gunners.

A special Bell P-63 aircraft were used for the target. A special device was attached to the
Browning machine gun that would cycle the action in full auto (photo)

What I want to find out - is why was the 7,62mm frangible manufactured by Frankfort Arsenal
designed for what US weapon ?DSCN1966.jpg

[Tuna]

Most likely for use on indoor ranges I would guess.

[Charlie Flick]

Anyone know what weapon or weapons were used with this 7.62mm Frangible cartridge?

Yep. The M160 7.62mm frangible cartridge was used for training purposes on the coaxial machine gun on the M60 tank. It was intended for use on enclosed or semi-enclosed ranges. The projectile itself was the same projectile used in the earlier M22 cartridge. Work on the XM160 cartridge began in 1961.

In 1963 the cartridge was standardized as the M160 at which time production was moved from Frankford Arsenal to Lake City. Laser training devices ultimately rendered the M160 frangible cartridge obsolete. The last production of the M160 occurred in 1976.

I hope that information is helpful to you.

Regards,
Charlie

[Johnny P]

What are these? 7.62X51 with FA 57 and Nato mark, with olive drab tip. Pulled one and projectile is 173 grain BT. As can be seen, has been belted.

[RCS]

early 7,62mm

These was some LC 54 produced in 1954

My photo shows 7,62mm steel case LC 56 NATO symbol, L C 54 AP and 22/7,62mm WCC 53

Your FA 57 being produced in 1957 by Frankfort Arsenal was for testing ?

The LC 54 AP was only a small batch

[Johnny P]

How's this for early. Black tip, FA 51, no NATO mark.

[RCS]

the start of the 7,62mm

JP - never seen a AP cartridge that early.

here is a small collection of 7,62 - the really short cases are 300 Savage, then the
7,62x49.5mm. Got these examples many years ago

My photo - they are in order of headstamp but you can see note the profile changes

left to right

FA 48 FA 46 0 primer FA 49 FA 50 300 Sav with black tip FA 48 STARP1010054_0050_050.jpg