Any interest in discussing/buy/sell/trading .50-70 and .45-70 FA of the 1870s/80s?

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  • Dick Hosmer
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 5993

    #1

    Any interest in discussing/buy/sell/trading .50-70 and .45-70 FA of the 1870s/80s?

    Have some duplicates, sealed boxes, etc., and, there are still a few such items I'd like to pick up. Is this mostly a shooter's forum, or do ammo collectors lurk here as well? Viewing the ammo album on my webpage www.picturetrail.com/sa4570af will show what I'm interested in. Thanks.
  • JBinIll
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 5608

    #2
    I'm looking for some single specimens of .50-70,no rarities,just some examples of the caliber.
    A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      I may have some for sale or trade - what I'm really looking for is to enhance my box collection, particularly the final version of the Long Range box (which can be empty) from 1884, the one that is actually labeled "Model 1881".

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      • JBinIll
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 5608

        #4
        I quit messing with boxes years ago after having an "accident" with what was an expensive hard to find shotshell 100 round box.
        A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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        • sdkrag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 426

          #5
          Dick, I have a round tin marked Frankford Arsenal filled with primers for reloading the 45-70.

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          • Dick Hosmer
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5993

            #6
            So do I! Neat little piece - picked it up somewhere along the way, can't be too many of 'em left. Mine is 100% full, but the label isn't the greatest.

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            • JBinIll
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 5608

              #7
              Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
              So do I! Neat little piece - picked it up somewhere along the way, can't be too many of 'em left. Mine is 100% full, but the label isn't the greatest.
              This tin?

              A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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              • Dick Hosmer
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 5993

                #8
                Yes, that's the one.

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                • JBinIll
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5608

                  #9
                  Hard tin to find with a pristine label.I've got three of them and that's the best of the lot.All of them are full.
                  A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                  • Dick Hosmer
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5993

                    #10
                    Are you anywhere near Bureau County? The wife and I occasionally visit there (usually in June, and we are about due) in connection with the restoration of a pioneer cemetery. If so, maybe we could do lunch, or something?

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                    • JBinIll
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5608

                      #11
                      I'm about 200+ miles south and east.
                      A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                      • sdkrag
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 426

                        #12
                        That's the one. Mine is full minus a couple that I used. I had to see if they would go off. They do. They also look great in period .45-70 or .50-70 dummy cartridges made up for show. It's interesting the dimensional differences with modern primers.

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                        • Dick Hosmer
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5993

                          #13
                          FA experimented with Berdan primed ammo in 1877. I have an (empty) April 77 box, and one sample R F 4 77 round.

                          There seems to be some question as to whether this item exists as R F 3 77, or whether the March date simply refers to the earliest use of a h/s on Benet rounds.

                          Anyone have an example of a March Berdan box, or cartridge?
                          Last edited by Dick Hosmer; 01-01-2014, 10:06. Reason: clarity

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                          • da gimp
                            Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10137

                            #14
                            what would a box of period original Winchester or gov't arsenal produced 1886 or 1887, .45-70 ammo go for? kinda looking myself.......
                            be safe, enjoy life, journey well
                            da gimp
                            OFC, Mo. Chapter

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                            • Dick Hosmer
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5993

                              #15
                              Probably somewhere on the order of $150-$200, give or take. Have no idea of the relative scarcity between commercial and FA, as I only collect the latter.

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