Idiots guide to black powder?

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  • Guamsst
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9753

    #1

    Idiots guide to black powder?

    Anyone know of a good source of info on using blackpowder firearms. Something catering to a person who has never fired one and wants to but has no resources for info?

    Things like how to measure powder, determine powder load, selecting projectiles...etc on a very basic level.
    I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.
  • ebeeby
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 687

    #2
    Others will be able to give you a lead on a BP 101 book. But I wanted to make the point that BP is very unstable and static sparks can have tragic consequences. Therefore, plastic must NEVER be used around BP. You also need to think about where you will store your BP in the metal cans it comes in.
    Powder measure is done with a scale using grains.
    Bullets can be cast or purchased and bullet lube is extremely important.
    "Socialism is the Philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." ~Winston Churchill

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    • JBinIll
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 5608

      #3
      Here's one-

      A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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      • JBinIll
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 5608

        #4
        Originally posted by ebeeby
        Others will be able to give you a lead on a BP 101 book. But I wanted to make the point that BP is very unstable and static sparks can have tragic consequences. Therefore, plastic must NEVER be used around BP.
        Ummmm...........how come everybody,including GOEX is putting powder in plastic bottles.Tin powder cans are about a thing of the past.
        A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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        • joem
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 11835

          #5
          I used toshoot a lot of BP but quit cause it's too nasty to clean unless your home. And Don't wash out you rifle in the bath tub, it leaves a terrible black ring in the tub which the wife doesn't like.

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          • ebeeby
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 687

            #6
            Originally posted by JBinIll
            Ummmm...........how come everybody,including GOEX is putting powder in plastic bottles.Tin powder cans are about a thing of the past.
            I haven't seen BP in plastic (pyrodex yes) but then I haven't bought any in a year.

            Personally, I'd never buy BP in a plastic bottle.
            "Socialism is the Philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." ~Winston Churchill

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            • Doug Rammel
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 145

              #7
              In the 60's I bought Goex BP in 25 lb kegs. The kegs were metal but after you open them the BP was in a large plastic bag. I would transfer it to 1 Lb cans by pouring it using a funnel.

              You may want to check this link.

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              • JBinIll
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 5608

                #8
                One of the black powder clubs bought bulk BP,came in a plastic bag in a cardboard box.Swiss,Schuetzen,and Grafs come in plastic bottles.People who have bought GOEX recently said they came in plastic bottles now.
                A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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                • Guamsst
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9753

                  #9
                  I have yet to get a spark off plastic that I would worry about around powder. Synthetic clothing would worry me much more. The book from track of the wolf looks like a good idea. I may just buy it.
                  I own firearms not to fight against my government, but to ensure I will not have to.

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                  • older than dirt
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 194

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ebeeby
                    Others will be able to give you a lead on a BP 101 book. But I wanted to make the point that BP is very unstable and static sparks can have tragic consequences. Therefore, plastic must NEVER be used around BP. You also need to think about where you will store your BP in the metal cans it comes in.
                    Powder measure is done with a scale using grains.
                    Bullets can be cast or purchased and bullet lube is extremely important.
                    You don`t measure BP by wt. It is measured by Volum.

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                    • ClaudeH
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 199

                      #11
                      I've wondered if those bottles where somehow mad conductive to avoid sparks?

                      Then again I've bought commercial single loaders that were plastic - one capped end for powder and the other for patched ball or bullet.

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                      • jon_norstog
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3896

                        #12
                        Guam,

                        Two ways to shoot BP: cartridge or front-loader. Pick your poison first, then pick your weapon. If you're shooting a rifle FG or 2FG is the s**T. Pistols use 3 or 4FG. Best bullets are the ones you make, 20 to 30 parts lead to 1 part tin. Most commercial cast are too hard. You can measure BP by volume without affecting accuracy or blowing up your gun. Clean the bore with hot soapy water soon as you are done shooting, and ditto the brass if you are shooting cartridges. A lot of BP cartridge guns like it if you fire a fouling shot before you start a target string.

                        That's about it. Good luck!

                        jn
                        Last edited by jon_norstog; 05-09-2013, 07:21. Reason: clarity

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                        • k arga
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 565

                          #13
                          go to americanlongrifles or traditional muzzel loading .com ,there you can find anything you need to know

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                          • Bill H
                            Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 94

                            #14
                            I believe you do measure BP by weight,, then measure the modern substitutes by equivalent volume.

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                            • JBinIll
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 5608

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Guamsst
                              Anyone know of a good source of info on using blackpowder firearms. Something catering to a person who has never fired one and wants to but has no resources for info?

                              Things like how to measure powder, determine powder load, selecting projectiles...etc on a very basic level.
                              Buy the Lyman book,learn the basics,adapt what you can use forget the rest.The muzzle loading forums,just like here,multiple suggestions of what to do based on personal preferences,pretty soon the newcomer is so confused he just says the hell with it too complicated and it's not.
                              A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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