1851 colt revolvers

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  • one shot
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2021
    • 534

    #1

    1851 colt revolvers

    Are the parts on these interchangeable between manufacturers , I have a Armi San Marcos and want to put a Pietta cylinder in it . It's .36 caliber brass frame cva gun .
  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #2
    I don't know, but I somehow doubt it. I assume that's the Navy.
    Mine is in 44 although that's not kosher. Not much help huh?

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11266

      #3
      probably maybe,,

      depends on when it was made,

      IIRC ASM has the worst rep for quality back in the day but has vastly improved,

      you may be able to drop it in, but not sure if it will time correctly with out some fiddling

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      • one shot
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2021
        • 534

        #4
        I bought it we will see worst can happen is I need a Pietta to go with it , the ASM is really nice looking bought a long time ago .

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        • barretcreek
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 6065

          #5
          Who made the 'genuine' Colts back in the '80/90s?

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11266

            #6
            Originally posted by barretcreek
            Who made the 'genuine' Colts back in the '80/90s?
            rumors were Uberti or one of the other Italians at one point made the parts and they were assembled here

            heard other rumors as well, but never anything confirmed

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            • RCS
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2180

              #7
              I was rebuilding a Uberti 1851 and needed a hand and bolt, got them from Dixie, did not fit.

              I have rebuilt a Uberti 1851 and 1861 and only buy parts from VTI Gun parts. PO Box 509, Lakeville CT 06039

              excellent parts and service

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              • Tom in N.J.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 307

                #8
                lyman, The Colt percussion revolvers of the "F" model series were made by Iver Johnson Arms, Middlesex, NJ in the 1980s. Italian forgings and castings, machined, finished and assembled in the old Plainfield Machine Co. shop. The Colt third generation "signature series" guns were made in Brooklyn, NY by Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. Colt made the "C" model series at the Hartford plant in the 1970s from castings and forgings obtained thru Val Forgett Jr. of Navy Arms from Italian sources.

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom in N.J.
                  lyman, The Colt percussion revolvers of the "F" model series were made by Iver Johnson Arms, Middlesex, NJ in the 1980s. Italian forgings and castings, machined, finished and assembled in the old Plainfield Machine Co. shop. The Colt third generation "signature series" guns were made in Brooklyn, NY by Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. Colt made the "C" model series at the Hartford plant in the 1970s from castings and forgings obtained thru Val Forgett Jr. of Navy Arms from Italian sources.
                  Thank you.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11266

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tom in N.J.
                    lyman, The Colt percussion revolvers of the "F" model series were made by Iver Johnson Arms, Middlesex, NJ in the 1980s. Italian forgings and castings, machined, finished and assembled in the old Plainfield Machine Co. shop. The Colt third generation "signature series" guns were made in Brooklyn, NY by Colt Blackpowder Arms Co. Colt made the "C" model series at the Hartford plant in the 1970s from castings and forgings obtained thru Val Forgett Jr. of Navy Arms from Italian sources.
                    Thank You Tom!!!

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                    • one shot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 534

                      #11
                      Well I got the cylinder and it looks to be a few thousands long , when you assemble the gun the cylinder drags on the barrel . Can the wedge adjust this or do you lap the front of the cylinder to fit the gun the original cylinder is a good fit .

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                      • RCS
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2180

                        #12
                        Colt gap between barrel and cylinder ,002 to .003 Remington is larger

                        I remove from barrel in a lathe or you could file & stone it down, correct wedge
                        adjustment is also important

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                        • one shot
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2021
                          • 534

                          #13
                          The replacement cylinder is .006 longer than the original , and I want to shoot both cylinders in the same gun . The original fits fine the only option I see is matching the original cylinder so they both match the gun or am I missing something .

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