whats this old Hawkens works

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  • p246
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 2216

    #16
    Thanks for your input Jbinill. Is it worth a couple hundred maybe. I have no idea what to tell her,

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    • JBinIll
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 5608

      #17
      Maybe up to $500 in the right venue.It's hard for many older people to accept sentimental value is worth nothing in the open market and not everything old is worth a lot although it "looks just like" that one they just appraised on Antiques Road Show for thousands.Any local muzzle loading clubs in the area?Someone able to examine it locally who is versed in the history of the area in person may have a better idea as to the who,what,when,and the where of it and give a better idea of value and a possible maker.
      A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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      • p246
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 2216

        #18
        Thanks. She's pretty grounded and thought it was worth 3 to 400. Then she took it to a local gun shop. They said it was made in 1816 and might be worth 5000.00. She didn't buy that. When I went to look at it I thought it might be a 1816 Harper's Ferry or Springfield. As soon as I saw it I knew it wasn't. Not sure where the LGS person got that. Maybe she should take it back to them and offer it for $2500 Lol. Once again thanks for the help.

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        • JBinIll
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 5608

          #19
          LOL Yea,that's the ticket.Heck of a bargain for the LGS.Put it in a good antique auction,might bring more than $500.Most local gun shops unless they deal in antique and collectible firearms with regularity don't have a clue.All half stocks are "Hawken Rifles",all military MLers are "muskets",anything with something remotely resembling a horse is a Colt,all Lugers are worth thousands.
          A man with a sword may talk of peace.A man with out a sword may talk of peace,but he must talk very fast indeed.

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          • Johnny P
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6258

            #20
            Agree with JB that it has none of the characteristics of an original Hawken.

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            • musketshooter
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 521

              #21
              It has no Hawken features. It appears to be an Ohio Style half stock. Very late percussion era. Condition appears to be "wall hanger" grade. Value would be around $200-250.

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              • p246
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 2216

                #22
                Thanks musket shooter.

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                • jjrothWA
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1148

                  #23
                  It Looks like a St. Louis Hawken, going on the iron fitting, half-stock BUT where's the patchbox & sights??

                  Sugest contacting either DIXIE Gun Work in TN or the Log Cabin [Lodi, OH] and show the photo's to them.

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                  • Tom Trevor
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 566

                    #24
                    Tell her to return to the gun shop and say "I ACCEPT YOUR OFFER OF 5,000.00" Then watch the worm squirm.

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                    • p246
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 2216

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tom Trevor
                      Tell her to return to the gun shop and say "I ACCEPT YOUR OFFER OF 5,000.00" Then watch the worm squirm.
                      I told her to take it to em and say. I have a hell of a deal for you $2500.00... Then I told her to watch em backpeddle.

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