Fury - another WWII movie

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  • GA-Dave
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 289

    #1

    Fury - another WWII movie

    I just saw this trailer. It looks like it has potential.

  • PhillipM
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 5937

    #2
    can't wait!
    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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    • CptEnglehorn
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 293

      #3
      Id definitely like to see it as they borrowed the last tiger able to move under its own power from bovington museum. Itll be worth it just for that

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      • PhillipM
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5937

        #4
        Originally posted by CptEnglehorn
        Id definitely like to see it as they borrowed the last tiger able to move under its own power from bovington museum. Itll be worth it just for that
        I may have to go to Baton Rouge and take my distant cousin, a Korean War tanker to this one. He was in the 45th Infantry and yes, they had tanks.
        Phillip McGregor (OFC)
        "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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        • tmark
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1900

          #5
          I look forward to it. I'd say another Viet Nam war movie is due.

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          • oldtirediron
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 242

            #6
            Can't wait to see this movie ! I think it is a remake of "The Tanks are Coming" made in 1951-- true story of the leading and first tank crew to cross into Germany and the SGT. that was their driving force! Incredible but true story!! Hollywood has nothing on the real crew!! What they did could not even be screen written today!! Read about this tanker-- Lafayette G. Pool (1919-1991), Here is a link to the movie;

            http://www.tcm.com/this-month/articl...re-Coming.html -------

            read about these guys; truth is stranger than fiction; I had a relative that was a tank commander in the 3rd Armored and had 4 tanks shot out from under him and he was the only survivor twice!!
            Last edited by oldtirediron; 09-22-2014, 11:08.

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            • p246
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2216

              #7
              I'm looking forward to it. My grandpa Traul joined after Pearl Harbor at 28. His nickname from both his crews was gramps. He trained in Lees and fought Sherman's his last being the 76mm high velocity easy eight.

              He started in Africa and ended the war in Italy. Like the hero old tired iron talks about he lost his first crew and had to abandoned several other tanks. From memory they had to run from one in Africa when the front idler was shot off loosing the track with it. In Sicily they had to check out a new tank when the 75mm main gun was shot off two feet from the turret by something mean. In Italy he lost his first crew when they ran over a land mine. They were not in contact and he was sitting up in the commanders hatch. He was blown free of the tank but the other four heros were killed. With his second crew they got a tread shot off and had to run for it. The last tank he had to turn in was hit in the gun mantel by want he thinks was a smaller anti tank round. The mantel stop any penetration but jammed the turrent in the ring. We lost him in 1978. I wished he would have lived longer and I would have gotten more time with him, but such is the way of life.
              Last edited by p246; 09-11-2014, 05:51.

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              • Embalmer
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 932

                #8
                Just saw it today. Not a bad movie. Very graphic violence.

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                • PKelly
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 131

                  #9
                  Saw it last night, overall a good effort. It was lacking in character development and you never really get a clear window into who the crew members are as individuals, and at a run time of nearly two and a half hours there was no excuse not to provide it. On the positive side, I believe it gives a pretty accurate and grim picture of the realities of WWII armored warfare. I especially enjoyed the scene in which four Sherman's engage a lone Tiger. I'm sure there will be historical inaccuracies on the technical front and I'm not well versed enough in armored warfare to find them, so I'll leave that to the history nazis. Recommended.

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                  • PhillipM
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5937

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PKelly
                    Saw it last night, overall a good effort. It was lacking in character development and you never really get a clear window into who the crew members are as individuals, and at a run time of nearly two and a half hours there was no excuse not to provide it. On the positive side, I believe it gives a pretty accurate and grim picture of the realities of WWII armored warfare. I especially enjoyed the scene in which four Sherman's engage a lone Tiger. I'm sure there will be historical inaccuracies on the technical front and I'm not well versed enough in armored warfare to find them, so I'll leave that to the history nazis. Recommended.
                    They used screw top fuel cans! Oh the horror!

                    I really enjoyed the movie, it is a day in the life of a tank crew, not a biography of their lives, so I'm good with no background and would probably gone to get popcorn if there had been flashbacks with momma and the girlfriend. The point of view is mainly from the young newbie that has 8 weeks in service and then is thrust into the thick of things. All he knows is what he sees and is told, there is no time for back story.

                    The dogface with the M1 and the cape around his helmet was badass.

                    It was a real treat to see the only operational Tiger on the big screen!

                    If I were the director, I would have ended not with the damaged 'Fury', but with a tank retriever hauling it off to be patched up, hosed off, and fitted with a new crew as what was actually done, showing that the war goes on.
                    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                    • p246
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 2216

                      #11
                      I do remember my Grandfather talking about using smoke to close the distance on bigger German armor. I also remember when they got the HV 76mm guns they'd use bait tanks to get the enemy to expose their position so the HV tank, which was hidden, could hopefully kill it. He also talked about using the Sherman's speed but I can't remember the details.

                      Either way saw the movie and liked it. Thought it was weird to see Pitt using a Stg 44. I liked seeing both short barreled 75 Sherman's and long barreled 76's. I was going to watch for any three piece cast front end early Sherman's but don't remember any. The Tiger was also neat to see, although in the movie it seems almost as agile as a Sherman which is not true. It had a lot going for it but speed and agility were not any of them.

                      Its worth seeing in my opinion.

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                      • PhillipM
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5937

                        #12
                        I never knew any tankers, but was around as a kid for some of the 101'st AB recon platoon reunions. The scenes in the town where they were dismounted and interacted with Germans, both soldiers and civilian, tracked closely with the way the vets I knew described it. One comment in particular I remember was, "We were the conquerors, everything was all ours." I had the benefit of being around them as sort of a fly on the wall when they drank their Old Charter and Coke and talked among themselves. What really got me what when the war was over, for them, it was OVER. They captured some German plinking at them on a mountain and after disarming him, got him drunk.
                        Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                        "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                        • PhillipM
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5937

                          #13
                          I also watched Patton the other day for the first time in years and in the very beginning someone tells Bradley that the German tanks were diesel and didn't explode when hit and ours being gasoline blew up.

                          Further research reveals the German tanks were gasoline too and ours blew up because they were hit in their cannon magazines, but the myth persists.
                          Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                          "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                          • Col. Colt
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 928

                            #14
                            Just got back from seeing "Fury" and must give it an enthusiastic thumbs up! I spend as little with Hollywood as possible, but once in a while they do something good in spite of themselves. Very gritty and tough, no sugar coatings - but very INTENSE and real. Our fathers and grandfathers real did have "It" - in spades. Watch the fight with the Tiger and realize that what is being depicted happened more often than not. Tankers had a very poor life expectancy in the US Army in Europe in WWII. CC

                            PS - GO see it - if for no other reason than to send a message to Hollywood that we want, and will support with our dollars, reality and a good, honest telling of US History - we can take the ugly so long as they show the Noble with it, and in proper proportion. I did not find the profanity or the religious references (either one) to be odd for troops in a life and death setting. Pretty real, as best as I can tell having not been there. CC
                            Last edited by Col. Colt; 10-19-2014, 03:27.
                            Colt, Glock and Remington factory trained LE Armorer
                            LE Trained Firearms Instructor

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                            • Embalmer
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 932

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PhillipM
                              If I were the director, I would have ended not with the damaged 'Fury', but with a tank retriever hauling it off to be patched up, hosed off, and fitted with a new crew as what was actually done, showing that the war goes on.
                              least I wasn't the only one to have thought, that should have been the ending.

                              Wishing my paternal grandfather was still alive. he was a tank driver in the 4th armored, and came home badly injured from the battle of the bulge. though not to extent some of the other tanks crews got. would be very curious to get his take on it, but know he probably wouldn't go see it. There were quite a few wwii vets that were at the first showing on Friday here. all had armor division pins on their wwii vet hats. end a couple seemed a bit shooken up.
                              Last edited by Embalmer; 10-19-2014, 05:01.

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