Ethics of a teen hunter taking an Elk @ 1300+ yards?

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  • jjrothWA
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1148

    #1

    Ethics of a teen hunter taking an Elk @ 1300+ yards?

    Nice to know of his abilitiy but dos this come under thrill of the chase and selecting an animal and placing a decent shot???

    If more info in know, please share?.

    JHR
  • leftyo

    #2
    to me at that distance, its more shooting and not hunting. ethics are individual and the "hunter" has to live with themselves if they flub the shot. there are enough hunters out there that cant make a clean kill at 50yds, so where do we judge them..?

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    • Oyaji
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Oct 2009
      • 4371

      #3
      That's plumb crazy let alone unethical. I think I know the answer but, I gotta ask......was the shot/harvest successful?

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #4
        Originally posted by jjrothWA
        Nice to know of his abilitiy but dos this come under thrill of the chase and selecting an animal and placing a decent shot???
        JHR
        As much "thrill of the chase," I'd bet, as blasting a prairie dog from a portable bench-rest at the same range; however, I'd probably have done the same thing at that age IF someone had set me up in the right place with the right eqpt. Hope the boy finds a mentor who'll expose him to different values.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by Oyaji
          That's plumb crazy let alone unethical. I think I know the answer but, I gotta ask......was the shot/harvest successful?
          Agree. At that distance good luck even picking up the trail let alone bringing the hunt to a successful conclusion.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10580

            #6
            Maybe it was a very, very large elk and he was shooting with a Barrett 50cal.

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            • Sako
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 654

              #7
              So we get to hear about the successful shot now lets hear about all of the unsuccessful shots that ended up with unrecovered wounded animals by him and his group.

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              • ray55classic
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 433

                #8
                Even the highly vaunted 6.5 Creedmore drops over 40ft at 1300yds and lets not even mention the wind.
                There's entirely too many variables to insure a clean kill and like Sako said How many elk were wounded and lost?

                The shot was taken by a 12 year old boy with a 7 mag , they even made a video for Youtube
                which will only cause more wounded elk as the monkeys see and try to better.
                Just because something is possible doesn't mean you should do it.
                .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIn1G8BeUuc
                Last edited by ray55classic; 08-22-2017, 08:15.
                Hang the bitch , because simply fading away shouldn't be an option
                "Les Deplorables"

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                • free1954
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1165

                  #9
                  watched the video. in my opinion it was too far for an ethical shot with any caliber. the only time you take a shot like that is if you have to.

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                  • Darreld Walton
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 632

                    #10
                    Kid's dad, grampa and uncles, maybe even brothers, need a good, swift kick to the nards for teaching this kid that it's okay to do such things. If ya gotta hit something that far out, then for hell's sakes, put up a target. That ain't hunting. It's a stunt.

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                    • clintonhater
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 5220

                      #11
                      Now that he's become a YouTube celebrity, this kid is no doubt devouring the comments his video is receiving. Therefor, do the kid a favor by adding a comment, as I just did, on the ethical issues involved. (I'm Clarence.)

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                      • barretcreek
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 6065

                        #12
                        Seen a few elk killed. 50 yards is a long shot for some folks. 1300 is irresponsible.

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                        • Sunray
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3251

                          #13
                          "...Elk at 1300+ yards..." There is no hunting cartridge that has sufficient energy at 1300 plus yards for a shot to be even remotely ethical. Regardless of the shooter's age. A hunter he is not.
                          Spelling and grammar count!

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                          • jon_norstog
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3896

                            #14
                            looks something we can all agree on, across the political divide. My own thought is that anything over 350 yards is kind of iffy unless you are shooting off a bench. Where my brothers and I hunt elk, 60 yards is a long shot, anyway.

                            jn

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                            • dryheat
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10587

                              #15
                              A Canadian just took out a bad guy at about two miles with a .50. Lucky shot? Maybe, but there is a lot of training and some great software. And it was just a human in the mid-east.
                              The dad seems to know what he's doing. Good equipment used. The kid seems intent. Still, he's just a pawn of his dads ego. I'm putting in all the positives I can, but still I wouldn't want to have to hike that far to clean the animal. It's hunting abuse.
                              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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