I remember picking up a Browning and a CZ-75 on a dealers table at the gunshow. I didn't know anything about either(well, just a little history about the Browning). The Czeck pistol fit my hand like a glove.
Looking for a "modern" 9mm pistol
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Excellent question. Related to that is what will the pistol be fed. A lot to not like about the Glocks but they will cycle just about anything from +P HP duty ammo to underpowered Russian steel case without complaint.Rick - What will the pistol be used for? Concealed carry, target shooting, home protection, hunting? Makes a difference. What are your criteria and preferences? You mentioned ergonomics, what about weight? What about mag capacity, SA/DA, hammer fired/striker fired, decocker, sights, rail, etc? Answering these questions will all help you narrow the field. I personally won't buy a new firearm (or anything else if I can help it) that isn't manufactured in the USA, but that's just a quirk of mine.
I've read that many law enforcement agencies have become disenchanted with the .40 S&W and are returning to 9mm. Anyone else heard this?Comment
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My brother likes his S&W Shield a lot.I have the hankering for a "modern" 9mm pistol. Two I'm looking at are the CZ75 and the Smith & Wesson M&P, both in 9mm. Any opinions on either or both?
Any other suggestions? I admit I don't like the Glock - I tried one and I didn't like the feel.
I'm not looking to spend the money that requires a second mortgage, either. Maybe the $400-600 range.
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When I went to replace my Rem-Rand I choose the Springfield 1911 and ended up giving that one to my Daughter Samantha. I went looking for a replacement but handguns as well as other PDW's were in short supply, When the Glock's first came out I had a police friend who had a supply house and he loaned me one in 9 the other in .45 I put many rounds them over a month and didn't like them. Accuracy was acceptable, brass was scrap and the takedown was slow. I picked up a Sig P-220 and feel that Sig is the way to go...expensive but how much is my hide worth? I got a deal on mine and now would have to pay a great deal more to replace it. I like the 1911 but feel the Sig to go.
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Yes, by a "modern" pistol, I mean say, post 1990. I do have an Inglis HP, the Canadian knock-off of the Browning HP, but it is more-or-less a "collector", although it gets shot from time to time. I have a Star BM (the compact 9mm) but I'd like something a little more up to date and with more ammo capacity (plus the instruction and take down manual in English!
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I'm leaning towards the CZ75. I'm not about a compact of some sort, as well. I almost bought a CZ75, way back when, when I bought my first pistol, back in 1999 - but the Inglis showed up for the same price ...then I discovered .45s! LOL!"We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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Well if your thinking of a new Hi-Power then you had better hurry. The last shipment of Browning Hi-Powers was sent to the US in March of this year. It is the LAST shipment as they have stopped production of the Hi-Power. The machinery has worn out according to FN and they are not going to replace it. So the Hi-Power made by FN has come to the end of the road. I agree with you Rick that the Inglis has become more of a collectors item but it is still my go to firearm if needed in the middle of the night.Comment
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id go handle as many as you can get your hands on. what i like, and what works best for me is not necessarily what your going to be happy with. ask just about anyone what they think is best, and they will answer the one they own as most only own 1 or 2 , and have never tried many others, so of course theirs is the best.Comment
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Not really interested in a Browning HP - like to try a "modern" 9mm.
There was one guy who had CZ75 - Israeli surplus - for $359 - about 70% condition. Almost pulled the trigger on one of those.
I agree, handling some would probably be a good idea first. Going to a large gunshow the end of next month and I might do that."We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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The Israeli CZ 75 and CZ 75B (firing pin block) have been imported for a few years, I purchased a CZ 75 from Aim Surplus and I was sent a slightly used parkerized pistol. I payed extra for a best of five pistol. Most of the Israeli pistols have a chipped paint finish. The 75B has better sights but many consider the transitional CZ 75 to be the best because of the better sights and it retains the round trigger guard.
Bud's Gun Shop has a few surplus CZs and the pictures indicate the condition of the finish.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...5b+9mm+15%2B1+Comment
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Rick, FYI... The LEO's across the country are getting rid of the .40 cals. and going back to 9MM's. There are a lot of used .40's out there and they are cheap. I tried to trade a H&K USP .40 (once a $750 gun), for a $400 S&W at the local gun shop and they were not a bit interested. I had a well used Belgium Hi Power and they swapped even for a NIB S&W 838.
I like both the CZ-75 and the S&W MP's.Comment
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I suggested the 40cal as well but didn't find out till later that Rick already has a couple of 9mm's. He probably doesn't want another caliber so close in size. I know it can be a real pain when you are reloading. I have 40's and 45's. I wish I had stuck with one or the other now.Rick, FYI... The LEO's across the country are getting rid of the .40 cals. and going back to 9MM's. There are a lot of used .40's out there and they are cheap. I tried to trade a H&K USP .40 (once a $750 gun), for a $400 S&W at the local gun shop and they were not a bit interested. I had a well used Belgium Hi Power and they swapped even for a NIB S&W 838.
I like both the CZ-75 and the S&W MP's.Comment
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Good point!id go handle as many as you can get your hands on. what i like, and what works best for me is not necessarily what your going to be happy with. ask just about anyone what they think is best, and they will answer the one they own as most only own 1 or 2 , and have never tried many others, so of course theirs is the best.
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OK, let's change the question slightly ...
A CZ75 Compact vs. a S&W M&P Compact - both in 9mm (No, not interested in a .40 caliber).
Which is the best one?"We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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Having had negative experience with two pistols from the Smith & Wesson M&P line, I think I would go for the CZ 75 Compact. I like the looks, construction, ergonomics, heft, feel, and most of all, the reliability of the CZ product line.
Here's an interesting and informative review of the CZ-75 Compact found on Gunblast.com..........
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I have several CZ P1s and they are great pistols. My son in law has a CZ 75 D PCR that he realy likes. The PCR is an aluminum framed CZ 75 Compact with a decocker rather than the standard safety. The P1 has an accessory rail where the other two do not.
I purchased a S&W Shield for my daughter because she liked it. I thought it was OK but I prefer the SIG and CZ pistols.Comment

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