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  • Rifleman
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 99

    #1

    Any House Framers?

    Building a new home, in town, lightweight construction type home. So they framed the 1st floor walls today and I found a lot of studs with these checks. I walked thru several other homes that are also under const and none had more than one or two like this in the whole house. I would say 20% of my studs are like this. So before I fly off the handle and chew butt I wanted a pros advise...should I be making them replace these?
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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #2
    Personally I would not accept these in my building, much less my house.
    Sam

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    • leftyo

      #3
      oh hellll no!

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #4
        I'm not sure the building inspector would accept them either. Remember it's your house and $, not the contractors.

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        • Rifleman
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 99

          #5
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          • Rifleman
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 99

            #6
            Yea, just wanted to make sure I not being over zealous as it's my house. I'll wait for their reply and if not acceptable I'll just call the building inspector. And to be fair, it was just framed, the building super has not seen it yet, he might have a cow himself.

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            • phil441
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1697

              #7
              I'll bet they got that wood at a really good price! Personally, I wouldn't settle for it. If they claim that it's not a load bearing wall, keep in mind that a wall also has to resist side forces, such as wind.

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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #8
                Those are beyond a little checking. Those are cracked. Maintain your cool but demand they come out.
                Odds are if they replace a few they'll knock them out and pound the old nails over onto the sole plate before toenailing the new ones. I doubt they would take the time to sawzall the nails flush. If more than just a few are like that then demand they replace the entire wall unless your fine with your wall being toenailed.
                It's your house and you're the boss. Photograph everything as it could be used as a deal breaker if you're so inclined.
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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  I've never seen anything like that. I'm not a builder, but I've watched friends put up homes. They sure as heck wouldn't accept that. What was the builder thinking? It looks awful.
                  Are you a cheap bastard? If you accepted the lowest bid well then....
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • Major Tom
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6181

                    #10
                    Totally unacceptable! Those are weak lumber. May cause future problems for sure!

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                    • ray55classic
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 433

                      #11
                      If this is what you can see, think about what they'll be hiding.
                      This shows beyond doubt they can't even spell craftsmen and will throw up anything IF they think they can get by with it.
                      You need to double check each & every single thing they do .
                      That crap needs to come down and I wouldn't settle for them toenailing the replacements in.
                      They screwed it up, make them fix it right or you can call your city or county building inspector, then they'll be fixing everybody's house.
                      These kind of yahoos will likely put 1 or 2 nails when common sense or code calls for 3 or 4
                      I'd also carry a 3 ft level and check each & every wall for plumb ,
                      use a measuring tape and check for square [measured diagonally both measurements should be the same or very close]
                      This is the skeleton of your home if it's not right , nothing will be right.
                      You're paying for this and will be for many years, If you accept crap work believe me you'll get it in spades.
                      Oh and BTW what is the primary language spoken by your so called "framers".?
                      Last edited by ray55classic; 09-13-2017, 07:37.
                      Hang the bitch , because simply fading away shouldn't be an option
                      "Les Deplorables"

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                      • Sunray
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3251

                        #12
                        Stuff has been sitting inside somewhere. Dried out.
                        Isn't cracked either. It's split. You need to talk to the contractor and probably a lawyer.
                        Spelling and grammar count!

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                        • bdm
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 613

                          #13
                          Sir they were in the kiln to short or run through to fast i would not accept them if it were my house

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                          • Dan Shapiro
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5864

                            #14
                            NO! NO! NO! Those are future problems waiting to happen!
                            "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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                            • 1563621
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1103

                              #15
                              I would call the Building Insp. if no action from foreman!

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