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  • Merc
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1690

    #16
    Originally posted by JB White
    After today I'll NEVER watch a Pittsburgh Steelers game again. This irked me in a "Hanoi Jane" kind of way. If this trend continues I'll be boycotting the entire NFL which includes not wearing or using any product with any NFL logo, or endorsement.

    "We don't want to be involved...." is total BS. They chose their side and it isn't the side of Mr & Mrs America.
    Tomlin held a team meeting Saturday night and discovered that the united front the Steelers had the first two games against the protesters was crumbling and some of the players were going to protest. This severely divided the team which includes a war hero Al Valeneuva who had multiple tour of Afghanistan as an Army Ranger and was a recipient of the bronze star for bravery. Tomlin made the decision that the team would not participate in the national anthem instead of allowing some team members to protest causing further division and a distraction from the game. It obviously didn't work since they lost.

    Seattle's coach also didn't allow his team on the field until the anthem was played. Keeping the team off the field for the playing of the national anthem might be a sign of the times since it will deprive the millionaires who play a game for a living the chance to display their displeasure at the police for trying to do their job instead of trying to be a positive roll model for their brethren.

    The liberal owners are going along with the protests may be the worst possible thing that can happen to the NFL besides the concussion lawsuits. The silent majority as usual will have the final verdict as to whether to stay glued to the tv or do something else on Sunday. I didn't watch any Steeler games last year and none so far this year - AND I'M FROM PITTSBURGH!

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    • Sunray
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3251

      #17
      Millionaire arrested adolescents playing a children's game. Mind you, The Donald shouldn't be arguing with 'em either.
      "...and THEIR SPONSORS..." https://www.nflpa.com/players/sponsors
      Anheuser-Busch makers of that stuff they call beer. There's no rice in beer. Kinda like to know how they got the horse to drink the stuff they double filter, twice too.
      Spelling and grammar count!

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      • Merc
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1690

        #18
        Originally posted by Sunray
        Millionaire arrested adolescents playing a children's game. Mind you, The Donald shouldn't be arguing with 'em either.
        "...and THEIR SPONSORS..." https://www.nflpa.com/players/sponsors
        Anheuser-Busch makers of that stuff they call beer. There's no rice in beer. Kinda like to know how they got the horse to drink the stuff they double filter, twice too.
        Boycotting the NFL sponsors shouldn't be too difficult for me since the only one I currently deal with is Visa. If words alone don't get the league's attention, latest tv ratings for Sunday sure will. They showed a 10% drop compared to Sunday a year ago. Evidently, some fans have found other things to do. The cost of showing the sponsor's ads are based on the number of people watching the game. The NFL will have to pay some of that money back due to the lower ratings. The situation will be made worse if the sponsors see a corresponding dip in sales, suspect a boycott and start bailing out. The money the owners get from the tv package allows those huge salaries to exist. It can all be in danger unless the protests stop. Are the owners and protester smart enough to realize this?

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #19
          Originally posted by Merc
          Boycotting the NFL sponsors shouldn't be too difficult for me since the only one I currently deal with is Visa. If words alone don't get the league's attention, latest tv ratings for Sunday sure will. They showed a 10% drop compared to Sunday a year ago. Evidently, some fans have found other things to do. The cost of showing the sponsor's ads are based on the number of people watching the game. The NFL will have to pay some of that money back due to the lower ratings. The situation will be made worse if the sponsors see a corresponding dip in sales, suspect a boycott and start bailing out. The money the owners get from the tv package allows those huge salaries to exist. It can all be in danger unless the protests stop. Are the owners and protester smart enough to realize this?
          The most common sponsor of NFL games is Verizon, followed by Bud Light, McDonalds, IBM, Subway and Ford.

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10626

            #20
            I don't know if it was televised but it was reported that the Cincinnati Bengals all stood and locked arms during the anthem.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #21
              Can anyone verify that? If so, we should send them a thankyou.

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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #22
                They played the Packers in Green Bay. I'll bet the Pack was out there on the field.
                2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                • JB White
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13371

                  #23
                  Apparently there was quite a bit of kneeling, sitting, raising fists and locking of arms. From what I gather...which I don't really, the actions are mixed in meaning.
                  I'd hold off on saying 'thanks' until we know for certain what was meant by it. After all it was "Hate Trump Weekend" on the left. So what solidarity were they displaying?
                  2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                  **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                  • Former Cav
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2241

                    #24
                    I see it as an INSULT to EVERY soldier and EVERY veteran. Reminds me of all those azzholes who harassed us when we came back from Vietnam. I got harassed right out of a job. I posted this out on the web in numerous places and I stand behind it (below)

                    The only thing I can add to my commentary below is that the baseball players play with even SMALLER BALLS!! PUNKS, every one of em! Makes me wonder if the "golfers" are next!!


                    FOLLIES is what I call ABC's (and the rest of the SLIMESTREAM MEDIA) version of "world news"
                    According to those LIARS, 60 percent of the people agree with the NFL players and all that.
                    I'd like to WRITE to the local RAG newspaper the Arizona REPUGNANT but I'm sure they'd EDIT my note to make 180 degrees opposite of what I mean or not publish it at all..

                    Basically: To all the NFL players!
                    you make what ?? 1 to 20 million and year and you are telling us how you are "deprived" ?
                    TOO BAD. I've got news for you CLOWNS who play with LITTLE BALLS..... and are exorbitantly overpaid...
                    The LOWEST PRIVATE in the US Military is much more of a PATRIOT then you PUNKS would ever be!
                    TOO bad some of you PUNKS were not around in 1965 when you'd get DRAFTED when you were 18 and sent over seas and you made a whole $120 month (they had to promote you to PFC E-3 after a while to send you into the combat in Vietnam. I think that was maybe 1966 or 67. Before that you could go as a PVT E2 on your whole approx $90 a month plus $65 combat pay. An E1 was a Trainee in Basic Combat Training).
                    TOO BAD you PUNKS never had to face the DRAFT!!
                    FUNNY THING, even though I got sent into harms way twice (1965-66 to So Korea and 67-8 for Vietnam.... BTW... I signed up for Armored Europe as I fancied myself drinking fine German Beers and chasing fine German Frauleins......imagine that...I was politically incorrect even back then....grin)
                    Even though both tours were considered a "hardship tour", I never considered myself as deprived!!!
                    maybe hunted.....but not deprived!
                    What a bunch of "SORRY PUNKS who PLAY with little BALLS"

                    You can copy, cut and paste (NOT EDIT) as much as you want. SCREW the NFL and others who play with little BALLS!!

                    Sincerely,
                    Bob Schneider

                    PS. CCing to myself so you "honest news media types" can't change it!!

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                    • Bill E
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 434

                      #25
                      +1

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10626

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                        Can anyone verify that? If so, we should send them a thankyou.
                        Here you go. Scroll down to the 2nd picture.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JB White
                          They played the Packers in Green Bay. I'll bet the Pack was out there on the field.
                          Martellus Bennett, whose brother had a run in with the LVPD, sat. Two teammates sat with him. The rest of GB linked arms for unity. GB mgmt says it's a free country.

                          NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives. NFL locker rooms are also melting pots in a way that most of society isn't. Into the middle of this walks Trump with his usual subtlety.

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                          • JB White
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13371

                            #28
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Martellus Bennett, whose brother had a run in with the LVPD, sat. Two teammates sat with him. The rest of GB linked arms for unity. GB mgmt says it's a free country.

                            NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives. NFL locker rooms are also melting pots in a way that most of society isn't. Into the middle of this walks Trump with his usual subtlety.
                            Really? Don't try to justify it. If any of us did something on that order to make our employers look bad we'd be out the door. The NFL isn't the only "melting pot" out there. This all started with one opinion based on revisionist history, misinformation, and racism. Now it's a trend and a very offensive one at that.
                            2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                            **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JB White
                              Really? Don't try to justify it. If any of us did something on that order to make our employers look bad we'd be out the door. The NFL isn't the only "melting pot" out there. This all started with one opinion based on revisionist history, misinformation, and racism. Now it's a trend and a very offensive one at that.
                              Read into my post what you like JB. But don't misrepresent what I wrote, because that's Red's job. I categorically did not say the NFL is the only melting pot. But for racial and geographic diversity it's tough to beat a pro sports locker room. The arm linking (since someone asked) was about a public display of unity in the face of outside events.

                              And what am I not supposed to justify? Freedom of expression? Since when? They express their feelings, you express yours, we stop short of violence. I was taught that is how it works. No longer true? I sincerely hope not.
                              Last edited by togor; 09-26-2017, 04:36.

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                              • clintonhater
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 5220

                                #30
                                Originally posted by togor
                                NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives.
                                Boo-hoo, poor unfortunate SOBs! So were they tricked into signing those contracts, and compelled against their will to accept more dough in a few yrs than most of will see in a lifetime, or two? (Not to mention the fringe-benefit of all the knockout white sluts they can pound.)

                                One of the most brutal occupations in existence? Wonder what the thousands of legless or armless or otherwise maimed Iraq & Afghan vets think about that.

                                Trump did the country a service by making mindlessly sports-addicted America take note (I hope!) of the kind of pampered, overpaid SOBs their ticket prices have been supporting.

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