Vegas

[Dick Hosmer]

because if they get the bumpfire stocks, the next step is the magazines, then the next step is the semi autos, because after all who needs that kind of firepower... next your down to single shot break open rifles, and then they will take them too. we have been through this ban stuff before, and were damned lucky to get out from under it. the libs could care less about bump fire stocks, they want the guns in entirety!

A line needs to be drawn - the question is where. Get too fiery, and pig-headedly obstinate in the face of an obvious problem, and the results will please no one here. Stop and think - do you really want a revolution in this country, now? That time may come, for other reasons, but over a hunk of cheap plastic with disaster written all over it - really?

[leftyo]

you think we are going to have a revolution over this? really?

[togor]

because if they get the bumpfire stocks, the next step is the magazines, then the next step is the semi autos, because after all who needs that kind of firepower... next your down to single shot break open rifles, and then they will take them too. we have been through this ban stuff before, and were damned lucky to get out from under it. the libs could care less about bump fire stocks, they want the guns in entirety!

The Domino Theory defense, but not all dominos are created equal. Illegality of the act was obviously an insufficient deterrent, as the shooter was prepared for a one way trip. And even if taken alive, there is no way to make the punishment fit the crime. In such cases, it becomes necessary to make the physical activity itself more difficult to pull off. People here are recommending proactive surgery towards that end, and their reasoning strikes me as sound. If you will, they are suggesting that we pull a domino out of the line to break the chain.

[Dick Hosmer]

you think we are going to have a revolution over this? really?

No, not immediately, but that Rambo-wannabe a$$hole has kicked a big snowball over the edge of the mountain. Who knows where it will ultimately go? There's plenty of trouble in the streets already. I'm sure they already have plenty of them, but do you want BLM, and their ilk, to be buying more bump-stocks? Get them off the market now.

[Dick Hosmer]

The Domino Theory defense, but not all dominos are created equal. Illegality of the act was obviously an insufficient deterrent, as the shooter was prepared for a one way trip. And even if taken alive, there is no way to make the punishment fit the crime. In such cases, it becomes necessary to make the physical activity itself more difficult to pull off. People here are recommending proactive surgery towards that end, and their reasoning strikes me as sound. If you will, they are suggesting that we pull a domino out of the line to break the chain.

WELL said!!

[S.A. Boggs]

Would ANYONE HERE support a convicted rapist? This may sound like a stupid question but I have a reason for asking it. 99% here would say no and rightly so. Why support a convicted rapist...right? Years ago I had one as a client who was trying to be shoved into the next tier with more restrictions on his ability to function in society, I was opposed by several female cohorts in doing this. The feeling was that he deserved whatever society was willing to do to him. I was of the opinion that if society was not willing to play by the legal rules, how can I expect the same of him or anyone? He was convicted days before the new law went into affect and the legal system wanted to apply the new law to him...didn't matter this was unconstitutional, he was a convicted rapist. I won and he stayed under the old law, I also told him that if he did anything wrong I would supply a new rope and place the noose on his neck. Same applies here as I see it, I might not like what I see but worse WILL HAPPEN. I know I have ruffled a few feather's with my unpopular stand, but I strongly believe in supporting my belief. The anti's WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE of any weak link that we possess. Any position is only as strong as it's weakest point. Again I ask, since 1934 what have "we" gained in the gun control argument and what have "we" had taken away? By the way, the worst mass murder in the U.S. was in 1990 and it was done with gasoline. The worst killing of children was in 1925 with dynamite.
Sam

[Sandpebble]

Dick Hosner ... I will tell you now

WELL said!!

Dick Hosmer ... I will tell you now that your input into this particular thread is on the mark... as is Togors . Thanks to you both

I must also point out that I'm a bit bemused that many here cannot comprehend any type of government intervention pertaining to any type of weapon after they defended the Governments positition of preventing the sale of beer in a hurricane devestated area . After all.... they said right here on Culvers.... alcohol in that situation could be bad for the general well being.

They'll defend the governments position to prevent an after work beer in the name of public safety yet the thought of banning a bump stock is repulsive ...

I was accused of being an alcoholic because I was pissed at a ban on beer ....... what do we accuse someone of being when they defend bump stocks ...??

[S.A. Boggs]

Where is ethanol a Constitutional Right?
Sam

[Roadkingtrax]

21st Amendment is close enough. Damn the "Drys"!

[S.A. Boggs]

21st Amendment is close enough. Damn the "Drys"!

I agree, I was wrong and will take the 100 lashes with a wet noodle! One thing I have never quite understood is why a person can make beer [horrible stuff!], wine at home. Yet if I do whiskey [nectar of the gods, water of life.] I am required to purchase a license and pay a whiskey tax. I guess it goes back to having pay for the Revolution. You would think that the bills would be paid by now.
Sam

[S.A. Boggs]

Just read the BATF letter on this stock and it appears the BATF has no jurisdiction over it as it is a part and not a weapon. Interesting read from 2010.
Sam

[leftyo]

Just read the BATF letter on this stock and it appears the BATF has no jurisdiction over it as it is a part and not a weapon. Interesting read from 2010.
Sam

that is correct, and the atf has no issue with it because even with it installed a semi automatic firearm still only fires ONCE per pull of the trigger. havent see any of you guys notice the 100rnd magazine that was stuffed into one of those rifles we have seen from the murderers room. so how long do you all think it is before the libs turn form the bump stock to the magazine capacity again? im sure none of you have a problem with a 10rnd limit again, heck maybe it will be 5 this time! heck they probably wont even grand father in what you already own. we have been down the ban road before , and got lucky. i guarantee the libtard democrats learned from their last try.

[blackhawknj]

I have no problem with a 10 round magazine limit-as a mostly "Bullseye" shooter I usually load only 5-but that is MY decision, I don't need to be dictated to by some bureaucrat. If other shooters want them.....

[Dick Hosmer]

Just read the BATF letter on this stock and it appears the BATF has no jurisdiction over it as it is a part and not a weapon. Interesting read from 2010.
Sam

To me, at least in this case, that is a distinction without a difference.

The point raised about the gun still being "just" a semi-automatic is technically true, but mounting the stock clearly implies that semi-auto isn't what the person had in mind. That stock was designed for one purpose and one purpose only, a blatant, in-your-face work-around to the NFA. Bully, they got it to market and made a few thousand bucks. Weigh that against the cost in lives, and future grief for us all. I hope the designer(s) is/are really proud of themselves.

[S.A. Boggs]

Dick, I have to agree with you this was an "invention" that should have gone to file 13. Problem is the genie is out of the bottle and how do we put the darn thing back in? If I was a retailer I would pull the awful things and see if the manufacturer would take them back. Too many shysters out there with the "Should have know" mentality and a penchant of filing lawsuits. There are 58 souls who no longer are among us and that is a pity. Life has no guarantee of safety and the only life manual I know of is the KJV/NLI. One thing for certain, Ken certainly provided us with a lively topic with many learned opinions. Now if Ken would only provide some winning lottery numbers along with where and when to play that would be most entertaining and beneficial.
Sam