NRA supports bump-stock regulations...........

[Allen]

Cramming 22,000 people in a 2 acre lot to hear a concert outside is not necessarily a good thing to do. What you end up with is a solid block of meat inviting someone as crazed as this shooter to see how many he can take out since he couldn't possibly miss and one bullet could injure or kill several at one time. If the same concert were to be held inside or in a football field this more than likely would not/could not occur because everyone and what they carried in could be seen. As we continue to allow too many people to enter America legally and illegally we continue to lose our freedoms simply due to overpopulation. Then there are those who enter with the intent to change our laws to meet their liking.

I for one would not miss not being able to buy a bump fire stock any longer if outlawed but if you give the democrats an inch they will take a yard. There will be a lot of talk about gun control from now on even though the gun was not the cause of the massacre. There will be no mention of crowd control (size) and other subjects that made this incident an accident waiting to happen. If some other means of killing had been used it could have been much worse. Bombs (of any type), exploding vans, suicide vest and the like would have been the norm for what is happening in Europe now.

[togor]

GunBroker is pulling listings of bump stocks. Management decision.

[clintonhater]

As we continue to allow too many people to enter America legally and illegally we continue to lose our freedoms simply due to overpopulation...

Yes of course, but that's a different issue!

[clintonhater]

GunBroker is pulling listings of bump stocks. Management decision.

The manufacturers, if they had any brains, would be liquidating their stock as soon as they could, as well as selling off their real estate and all other personal property that isn't easily transportable, and heading with the proceeds to some foreign country without an extradition treaty with the US, because they're going to be overwhelmed by a tsunami of civil lawsuits. Immaterial if they "win" in court, because their legal defense costs will ruin them.

[Allen]

Yes of course, but that's a different issue!

Not really. My point was that we can't do what we used to do. In past years having mass crowds was not so much of a safety issue as it is now. Some people will use any means possible to commit murder whether it be a weapon with a bump stock, a pressure cooker bomb or throwing bricks. Can't blame the gun. Can't blame the bricks but that's the easy "fix". Because of too much diversity and numbers we lose freedoms.

[S.A. Boggs]

Perhaps restricting how many people can be in a given arena, this is already done in Ohio by the Fire Marshal on room occupancy. This is something to think about, have X number of tickets for Y available square yardage...Great thinking on crowd control/size.
Sam

[leftyo]

change the scenario of what happened a bit, same place and time, but put a half decent shooter up in that room with a couple of deer hunting rifles. 4-500yds is a chip shot with one if your any good at all. give the same 10 minutes. maybe there would be less wounded, except those who were injured by the stampede, but with a good rifleman up in that room the death toll would be well over what it was. now they wouldnt be wanting some oddball stock, they would be after your super deadly deer rifles, except they would call them sniper rifles. be careful of what your willing to just give up without a fight, because the liberals dont just want a stock, they have said it over and over, they want it all!

[USMilitaryGuy]

change the scenario of what happened a bit, same place and time, but put a half decent shooter up in that room with a couple of deer hunting rifles. 4-500yds is a chip shot with one if your any good at all. give the same 10 minutes. maybe there would be less wounded, except those who were injured by the stampede, but with a good rifleman up in that room the death toll would be well over what it was. now they wouldnt be wanting some oddball stock, they would be after your super deadly deer rifles, except they would call them sniper rifles. be careful of what your willing to just give up without a fight, because the liberals dont just want a stock, they have said it over and over, they want it all!

Yes.

We gave up selective-fire weapons, when he used a revolver.

We gave up bayonet lugs, when he used a pistol.

We gave up 30 round magazines, when he used pipe bombs.

He used "this". We gave up "not-this".

Please note.

Generally, we didn't "give up" anything.

As I remember, they took it from us.

Some of us were pleased that is all they took.

Some of us didn't care what they took, because we didn't use them anyway.

Some of us just woke up the next morning and said "What happened?"

[Sandpebble]

Perhaps restricting how many people can be in a given arena, this is already done in Ohio by the Fire Marshal on room occupancy. This is something to think about, have X number of tickets for Y available square yardage...Great thinking on crowd control/size.
Sam

So... Allen and Sam... permit a polite question. Should we happen to follow that thought, where does it end? ...

Do we keep restricting crowd size ... and our "right to congregate" ... until we can only have small public groups . Do we disallow some of our populations right to enjoy an outdoor event without fear because we can't step on the rights of Rambo Wannabes ?

After Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma some very stringent laws came into effect regarding the purchase of large amounts of fertilizer ..... why was that ?..... was the fact that my "right" to purchase large quantities of nitrates was curtailed a justified move on the Governments part?.... I mean, I could have used those nitrates to insure I'm not oppressed by an out of controll Government, right?

Please spare me "nitrates weren't mentioned in the Constitution" crap.

So... where do we go with this ?.... small crowds only in enclosed venues ?... smaller public schools would mean fewer targets for a bump stock owner too... right?

How "free" would we all feel then ?

[leftyo]

here, the guy doesnt have a fancy stock, and is in total control of the rifle. so are we going to ban fingers, or what?https://youtu.be/7Wq3PZZYB9I

[leftyo]

better cut this guys hands off https://youtu.be/Vvr0rSaFgZE

[leftyo]

outlaw fingers https://youtu.be/eauD4tvk4MY

[swampyankee]

here, the guy doesnt have a fancy stock, and is in total control of the rifle. so are we going to ban fingers, or what?https://youtu.be/7Wq3PZZYB9I

No just keep showing things like that and they'll ban AR's or all semi autos.

[leftyo]

No just keep showing things like that and they'll ban AR's or all semi autos.

they are going to anyways if we dont stand against idiotic bans that do nothing to reduce crime.

[Allen]

So... Allen and Sam... permit a polite question. Should we happen to follow that thought, where does it end? ...

Do we keep restricting crowd size ... and our "right to congregate" ... until we can only have small public groups . Do we disallow some of our populations right to enjoy an outdoor event without fear because we can't step on the rights of Rambo Wannabes ?

After Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma some very stringent laws came into effect regarding the purchase of large amounts of fertilizer ..... why was that ?..... was the fact that my "right" to purchase large quantities of nitrates was curtailed a justified move on the Governments part?.... I mean, I could have used those nitrates to insure I'm not oppressed by an out of controll Government, right?

Please spare me "nitrates weren't mentioned in the Constitution" crap.

So... where do we go with this ?.... small crowds only in enclosed venues ?... smaller public schools would mean fewer targets for a bump stock owner too... right?

How "free" would we all feel then ?

Like I said. With overpopulation we lose freedoms. We can't do what we used to do in some cases. This many people surrounded by tall buildings with no means of security is asking for trouble in today's society.

Since you seem to be fascinated with fertilizer it is my understanding that I can still buy small quantities of it. If buying it by the truck load I have to show a license proving that I operate a farm.

Bump stocks? I saw many of them for sale on GB before the listings were pulled. Many of them were used and listed as "only used once". I feel the owners weren't too impressed with them. I've just never had any desire to own one or a crank trigger for the Ruger 10/22-as hard as they are to load I don't want to blow out the ammo any faster than I need to. I don't want to see any kind of ban or regulation in the firearm industry at all because the barbaric liberals will make it a "hey day" and want to ban every thing.