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  • aintright
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1564

    #1

    Reasons to carry

    There seems to be no end to the reasons to carry these days . Our country bumpkin world ain't what it used to be . Just heard about a fellow I went to school with got attacked . We used to cruise together , we both had some sweet Camaro's back then .
    He got caught up in a divorce shortly after High School and left from around here . Hadn't heard about or from him since , moved about myself over the years .
    What little bit of info I got was he was at a house a couple miles from where I live and had this house for sale . He was there yesterday and this fellow was walking up the road with his dog . The dog takes off across the road into another yard and attacks a dog tied . The guy gets his dog off the tied dog and proceeds to beat and stomp his dog .
    My old friend yells at him to stop beating the dog and the guy replies with cursing and threatens to kill him and his wife .

    Well my friend was always a small fellow but never knew him to back down , unfortunately I don't think he thought things would go this level .
    Seems another guy appeared from somewhere and they took him down , one held onto him sicking the dog on him and the other circled him stabbing him several times .
    Also turns out the guy with dog had just served a bunch of time for a stabbing and was again a fugitive , living in a tent down in the field . The law has an ongoing search going on for these clowns . Hopefully they get them before they hurt somebody else . Just across the river from my home , have warned the wife . Here a few months ago a older lady across the field from me was home invaded and robbed at gun point , seems crimes of violence is an ongoing thing here in our rural neighborhoods these days , murder , rape , and robbery is a very common occurrence these days .
    Just found this out tonight , when I get back , I intend to go see him and hope he is doing well .
    Just goes to show you , you don't have to be in the city to justify carrying , things have changed and changed in a big way . Holy xxxx ! Wife just got off the phone with her sister , and called me , her sisters ex husband who is disabled was just attacked by another thug , B&E and had his hand broken , shoulder , and a few ribs , this P.O.S. Is a local snitch and has skated on similar charges before . Dam it , it's getting crazy , again only a couple miles from here . I knew this guy too , he is about as laid back as they get , about my age . I tell you it makes it harder and harder to leave her there by herself .
    Kenneth
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    You live near a river you say?

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      Originally posted by togor
      You live near a river you say?
      Supply of concrete blocks are not a bad idea, Togor has some good suggestions I think.
      Sam

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      • S.A. Boggs
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 8568

        #4
        When I first got my CCW years ago my wife thought it was a bad idea and "no need" to carry all the time. Couple of women in our area were killed as they came home during the afternoon, had surprised B&E. Both were killed with blunt weapons, after this was on the news my wife changed her tune. My canine compadre and Sigmund accompany me everywhere. Better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6!
        Sam

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        • blackhawknj
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 3754

          #5
          Baden-Powell said it best-"Be Prepared!"

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          • p246
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2216

            #6
            I work in the city live in the country. For us Meth use brought a lot of problems we use to be immune from. Like Sam my wife use to hate me carrying off duty. Now not so much, wonder if we will ever get back to the old days again.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #7
              Originally posted by p246
              I work in the city live in the country. For us Meth use brought a lot of problems we use to be immune from. Like Sam my wife use to hate me carrying off duty. Now not so much, wonder if we will ever get back to the old days again.
              Not until it is legal to hang certain lawyers and politicians. Life is a cycle and hopefully we have gone as far to the left as possible, although for some people far left is too right...if you get my drift. It's like what one guy said, "Each day is like a new day of combat only no arty or air support".
              Sam

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              • Major Tom
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 6181

                #8
                " wonder if we will ever get back to the old days again.[/QUOTE]"

                We are back in the "old days" when everyone carried a gun of some sorts.

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                • Sunray
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3251

                  #9
                  Most people carry because they can vs needing to do so. Who'd want to live where you needed to carry?
                  Spelling and grammar count!

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10580

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sunray
                    Who'd want to live where you needed to carry?
                    I'd say in most cases you don't know you need to carry till it's too late.

                    "Better to have a gun (on you) and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".

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                    • aintright
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1564

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      You live near a river you say?
                      Not on the river , but about 1/2 mile across some fields , some with a lot of cedar growth . Portions of the river are very easy to cross and shallow , nothing for some jack leg jacked up on some dope and adrenalin mixed being on the run , these guys could be any where .
                      Sam , you say Togor has some good Ideas , all I'm seeing is he is asking if I live close to the river .
                      How bout it Togor , what's on your mind ?
                      Have spent some time with my wife trying to train her somewhat , for a nasty scenario . Got her a nice S&W hammerless 38 special . , can't remember the model at the moment . Bought her some wad cutters to practice with so she wouldn't get shy of the recoil , and some +P's for the real thing .
                      Started her off dry firing until she seemed to grasp safety and seemed more at home with the gun , she was awkward and nervous at first . I was careful to be patient and explain the why of things .
                      Then I let her load one round at a time for safety and added handling and loading time . Once she got to hitting a four inch bull consistently at 7 yds . I let her load the cylinder and slow fire . Then pick up the pace , but moved her in to about two yds off the target to help with confidence building and learning what hold was the steadiest for her .
                      After she got to where she could keep most of her shots in a six inch bull cranking the trigger , we went back to dry firing from the ground .
                      Considered she may very well be attacked in bed , tried to set up a somewhat similar scenario . As she is a sound sleeper . Had her to lay on her back in the grass and put a bucket beside her to simulate a night stand .
                      Had her to close her eyes and then I would start yelling your being attacked , get getup get up , loudly at her , having her snatch her handgun and only being a yard or so from the target dry firing until it appeared she had it down pretty good .
                      Then I let her do it live , she surprised me and hit the bull pretty consistently . So then we went back to dry firing again , this time I would put my hand into her chest giving her some resistance coming up , taught her to do a side sweep with her forearms knocking my hand off her chest and grabbing her pistol and firing on the target , finally going live fire . I am only home on weekends so as you can imagine this took several weekends .
                      But she was eager to learn and happy with her progress , you could see her beaming as she progressed in her confidence and marksmanship . I was proud of her and she made feel good about the time spent , it was well worth it .
                      Yeah , I know , there a lot of other scenarios , but she had the opportunity to build her confidence and realize she may have to physically fight to get her gun . I do believe she is now better for it , bullet proof ? Who is ?
                      Sorry for the long wind , but I am proud of her interest and do worry about her .
                      Kenneth
                      Last edited by aintright; 10-11-2017, 12:30.

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                      • aintright
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1564

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sunray
                        Most people carry because they can vs needing to do so. Who'd want to live where you needed to carry?
                        I figure most people carry because they know what kind of world we live in . Yeah there are those who carry as a status thing . A lot of people didn't choose a bad area , it just got that way . As I am sure you have heard many say , not so long ago , maybe five years or so , I remember going to bed and not locking the doors , now we have dead bolts on all three entrance doors that require a key on both sides . Vehicles are locked , a camera on each end of the house . Paranoid ? Nope , just aware of how things have changed , old enough to not want to sell , move , and open up another mortgage , this one is down low enough It will be paid for by the time I retire .
                        Kenneth
                        Last edited by aintright; 10-11-2017, 12:45.

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                        • aintright
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1564

                          #13
                          Turns out they were father/son that attacked and stabbed my old friend , as of now they are facing assault charges . So it is good news they have them , hopefully they will be denied a bond hearing .
                          As for the other fellow , he is being released from the hospital today , 60 couple stitches in his head , the guy laid into him with a ball bat , causing a flattened out the top of his head , doctor told him he was lucky to be alive . Broken shoulder and hand along with some fractured ribs . Seems awful early to release him to me .
                          They gave his attacker a bond hearing today . Haven't heard whether they gave him bond or not , can't imagine why they would consider .
                          kenneth

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                          • Merc
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 1690

                            #14
                            In some urban neighborhoods, the "knockout" game seems to be the most entertaining thing that teens did around here. A group would walk up to a total stranger, usually elderly, and start punching until the knockout has been fully achieved. I read a while back about a group of teens out for fun. One decided that he would cross the street and knockout some guy who was just out walking his dog only to find out that he was carrying a long butcher knife. The guy left the teen bleeding terminally on the street and kept right on walking his dog. I haven't heard much since.

                            Now, it's opioid drugs mixed with fentanyl that's killing kids and young adults and they'll do just about anything to get money to buy their drugs.

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                            • Allen
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10580

                              #15
                              Outside of getting pulled over for going 5mph over the posted speed limit and being fined for going 20mph in excess we seem to have NO laws in this country any more. I believe it was most advertised with obama being in office. If anyone ever taught us we have become a lawless nation it was him. All the more reason to carry. When seconds count the police are only minutes away and even then calling them isn't always the best thing to do.

                              Those of us who have kids need to persuade them to obtain a permit too and carry where possible.

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