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[leftyo]

Come on guys it's Christmas.

sorry, but ill no longer take crap from that low life.

[RED]

you do realize what you just typed proved everything i said! we all know your a liar and a fraud, but how can you possibly be that stupid!

Please, what did I write that was either wrong or a lie? Every thing I said there is 100% accurate. I can PM you a copy of the repair bill... WHAT IS WRONG WITH ANYTHING I SAID?

OK, maybe I was wrong when I said you were right... Is that the problem? Please be honest and tell me what is wrong with me saying you are right? I have the bill to prove I paid for the repairs with both a debit card from the Alliant Bank and a Bank of America Visa Credit Card.

You really need to calm down and think reasonably.

[leftyo]

Please, what did I write that was either wrong or a lie? Every thing I said there is 100% accurate. I can PM you a copy of the repair bill... WHAT IS WRONG WITH ANYTHING I SAID?

OK, maybe I was wrong when I said you were right... Is that the problem? Please be honest and tell me what is wrong with me saying you are right? I have the bill to prove I paid for the repairs with both a debit card from the Alliant Bank and a Bank of America Visa Credit Card.

You really need to calm down and think reasonably.

lets start with your opening insult peckerwood. then lets go for the $20 fee you paid hmm, then lets not forget the added 3% on every item or labor that is added in whether they tell you or not that you paid, and you have some vision that im wrong, pull your head out of your rectum for once in your miserable life!

[RED]

lets start with your opening insult peckerwood. then lets go for the $20 fee you paid hmm, then lets not forget the added 3% on every item or labor that is added in whether they tell you or not that you paid, and you have some vision that im wrong, pull your head out of your rectum for once in your miserable life!

Bank of America runs promotions all year long. 0% interest for a year with a small transaction fee for those of us fortunate enough to have a good credit rating. IIRC the fee would have been $40 if I had paid the entire $2,284.41 with the promotional offer., but I paid $1,100 with my debit card and charged $1,184.41 to the BOA card. There was no 3%... If you will give me a email address or a snail mail address, I will send you copies of the repair bill and the BOA promotions. I tried to post copies here using the pictures icon in the heading and URL's from photobucket. I also tried to send them by PM with no luck. That didn't work here but should work on email.

You are completely off the road here. When I said you are right again, how in the Hell is that an insult?

BTW, I get promotional checks from BOA every month. When you use those checks, the vendor is not charged a fee. I made the BOA check out to Z's Powersports in Tipton MO. Their phone number is 660-433-2889. Ask the owner, Jake, about repair ticket 00867 dated 11/17/2016.

[leftyo]

Bank of America runs promotions all year long. 0% interest for a year with a small transaction fee for those of us fortunate enough to have a good credit rating. IIRC the fee would have been $40 if I had paid the entire $2,284.41 with the promotional offer., but I paid $1,100 with my debit card and charged $1,184.41 to the BOA card. There was no 3%... If you will give me a email address or a snail mail address, I will send you copies of the repair bill and the BOA promotions. I tried to post copies here using the pictures icon in the heading and URL's from photobucket. I also tried to send them by PM with no luck. That didn't work here but should work on email.

You are completely off the road here. When I said you are right again, how in the Hell is that an insult?

i dont need a copy of your receipt, how is it you dont understand the CC fee's are added in by the seller without them saying a word to you. kind of like when you see free shipping on some part, its already built into the price. as for paying a fee for a card, just foolishness.

[RED]

i dont need a copy of your receipt, how is it you dont understand the CC fee's are added in by the seller without them saying a word to you. kind of like when you see free shipping on some part, its already built into the price. as for paying a fee for a card, just foolishness.

I didn't use the CC. If I had paid the bill with a personal check or with cash it would still have been $1,184.41 So, when the guy at the counter told me the bill was $1,184.41 he had no idea whether I would pay with cash, check or credit card.

Now tell me again about the seller adding CC fees to every bill, for every transaction. Exactly how does that work???

OK you go into Joe's repair shop and he says, "I will fix your flat for $10.00."

You say "OK, here is my credit card."

Joe says, "Oops I made a mistake, if you pay with a credit card it will now be $10.35."

Come on... be real world. I am 74 years old (or is it only 73?) I have been around the block and am tight fisted with what little money I have left after paying $250k in medical bills in the past 10 years. I have made many mistakes in my lifetime and you and your best buddy trogor are the only two humans on the earth that has never, not even once, been wrong about anything."

[leftyo]

boy you really are slow between the ears arent you?! as far as being wrong about stuff, i am occasionally wrong, but im not a vile nasty liar like you are. you want to keep playing this game you started?

[Bill D]

Come on, Red. You are engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Just do as I have done and put this piece of garbage on the “ignore” list. Believe me, you’ll be happier for it.

[JB White]

Bill, has you or anyone else noticed the gist of this thread? One guy is explaining something without much adieu. Constantly having to prove his point. Another is badgering and name calling relentlessly simply for the sake of being confrontational. I think one has been fed enough rope to hang himself in front of the entire crowd.

I have to congratulate a couple of others who might normally contribute to this line of badgering. Even they are smart enough to see where this was going and didn't pile on. This isn't a simple matter of differing opinions getting a bit out of hand. Someone has shown it's nothing but a very, very ugly side and isn't worth the keyboard strikes in future replies.

[leftyo]

Bill, has you or anyone else noticed the gist of this thread? One guy is explaining something without much adieu. Constantly having to prove his point. Another is badgering and name calling relentlessly simply for the sake of being confrontational. I think one has been fed enough rope to hang himself in front of the entire crowd.

I have to congratulate a couple of others who might normally contribute to this line of badgering. Even they are smart enough to see where this was going and didn't pile on. This isn't a simple matter of differing opinions getting a bit out of hand. Someone has shown it's nothing but a very, very ugly side and isn't worth the keyboard strikes in future replies.

you are correct, red has strung miles of rope all over this forum. that some of you tolerate lies, insults, and nastiness from that lowlife , but have the nerve to stick your nose in when someone gives him some of it back, speaks volumes of your character!

[JB White]

Merry Christmas. {click}

[leftyo]

Merry Christmas. {click}

isnt that sweet, one of reds loyal followers wont bother me anymore! amen brother! you guys all wonder why many decent members of this site have left and dont come back, look at red, and those that support his behavior, and the bullies that pile on after he starts in with his BS!

[Bill D]

JB, I have noticed that anytime Red or several others (but especially Red) says something that leftyo disagrees with the said leftyo launches one of the most vitriolic attacks possible against whomever he feels affronted him. I think this sort of childish behavior should be strongly discouraged by all members of this forum. I feel that if the Admin won’t take some action then he should be boycotted by the members of this forum. I have read the thread elsewhere regarding the “ignore” list and disagree with those that seem to think that it’s okay to tolerate this kind of behavior “if you just ignore it”.

I agree with whoever stated that they doubted that this forum would survive another year. Pity, you and I have been around a long time and it never used to be this way.

[leftyo]

JB, I have noticed that anytime Red or several others (but especially Red) says something that leftyo disagrees with the said leftyo launches one of the most vitriolic attacks possible against whomever he feels affronted him. I think this sort of childish behavior should be strongly discouraged by all members of this forum. I feel that if the Admin won’t take some action then he should be boycotted by the members of this forum. I have read the thread elsewhere regarding the “ignore” list and disagree with those that seem to think that it’s okay to tolerate this kind of behavior “if you just ignore it”.

I agree with whoever stated that they doubted that this forum would survive another year. Pity, you and I have been around a long time and it never used to be this way.

it is only red, and it is not because i disagree with him, it is usually because he has lied, and slandered me. if you people want to defend him, and take it personal that i stand up to a bully, that is on you. if you can find me going after anyone else, anywhere on this forum where i was not first attacked, show it to me, and prove it to the world, otherwise mind your own business. if you choose to condone how red has treated myself and many others over the course of many years, and you want to interject yourself into matters that your not involved with, best look in the mirror at who is causing problems. when red or someone else calls you a child molester, and many other nasty things, you might rethink your stance! remember folks red has been attacking people for years, but somehow its ok for him. the members above have never said a word to or about red no matter how nasty and vile his attacks. doesnt seem right to me. only one i have a problem with is red, and i guess i have to deal with those that want to pile on and support his nastiness. cant remember ever having a discussion with billd, but yet here he comes taking shots!

[JB White]

JB, I have noticed that anytime Red or several others (but especially Red) says something that leftyo disagrees with the said leftyo launches one of the most vitriolic attacks possible against whomever he feels affronted him. I think this sort of childish behavior should be strongly discouraged by all members of this forum. I feel that if the Admin won’t take some action then he should be boycotted by the members of this forum. I have read the thread elsewhere regarding the “ignore” list and disagree with those that seem to think that it’s okay to tolerate this kind of behavior “if you just ignore it”.

I agree with whoever stated that they doubted that this forum would survive another year. Pity, you and I have been around a long time and it never used to be this way.

It is too bad. Used be heated arguments would stay somewhat focused. I've know a few sites which went down simply because the administrators decided to pull the plug.

Some of this reminds me of my younger street fighting and bar brawling days. There were always a few old salts at the end of the bar who spoke what was on their mind whenever the urge hit them. Sure, we had our comebacks but they were considered part of the ....shall we say décor? Yet there was always one or two who had to start with them even when they (the old guys) were minding their own. Always trying to get people on their side. Always blaming something said the day before. Anyone who told them to pipe down was defending them, and if you weren't on his side then you must be on theirs.
One night a girl whipped one of them with a cue stick because she had heard enough. This in spite of the snide remarks from the curmudgeons towards her in the past. Didn't change a thing and it probably never did. It was easier for me to click ignore #3 than crack an expensive cue

Can't see what was posted, but I'm willing to place money that me, perhaps you too, have been chided over saying "pipe down". Willing to bet it won't be restricted to this particular thread either. Same old story. Different character. Once again I'm glad to see the others who enjoy butting heads with Red have shown enough common sense to let this one ride. There was no need for it here. That's why I can at least respect them for their online personalities no matter their opinions.