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  • Ken The Kanuck
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 4094

    #1

    White slavery

    I wonder what kind of apology the blacks will give to the whites?

    KTK

  • ray55classic
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 433

    #2
    Slim to none , and Slim left town on the morning bus saying he wasn't coming back .
    Hang the bitch , because simply fading away shouldn't be an option
    "Les Deplorables"

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    • Fred
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4977

      #3
      What good would such an apology do for those enslaved for the rest of their lives so long ago by people who've been long dead and turned to soil.
      I'm not due or need an apology from anyone for any reason.
      Last edited by Fred; 01-02-2018, 11:07.

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      • Former Cav
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 2241

        #4
        oooh....do I hear "reparation time$ coming $oon from the U.N. maybe??? (said in a $arcastic tone)

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10628

          #5
          Originally posted by Fred
          What good would such an apology do for those enslaved for the rest of their lives so long ago by people who've been long dead and turned to soil.
          I'm not due or need an apology from anyone for any reason.
          This is exactly what the whites have been trying to tell the blacks for the past 100 years or so. No one living today has been a slave, owned a slave or had anything in the world to do with slavery. Even our native Indians who welcomed the Spanish explorers were taken as slaves by them.
          Last edited by Allen; 01-02-2018, 12:52.

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          • Sunray
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3251

            #6
            Nobody has ever apologised to the Irish either.
            "...No one living today has been a slave..." That's not true. Slavery is alive and well in most parts of the world. Just isn't an institution.
            Last edited by Sunray; 01-03-2018, 08:26.
            Spelling and grammar count!

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            • jon_norstog
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3900

              #7
              No apology needed. The US and Britain each fought the Barbary States - the officers and crew of the USS Philadelphia were taken prisoner and the EM were all worked practically to death. Jefferson sent more frigates. Stephen DecaTUR burned the Philadelphia in the harbor and the fleet and the marines beat down Tripoli. Bainbridge and his men, as well as a number of other prisoners and slaves, were released. It was a pretty good show for the new Nation.

              In 1816, Edward Pellew commanded a joint Royal Navy-Dutch fleet against Algiers, pretty much wrecked the place and freed 1,200 slaves.

              That was sort of the last hurrah for the Barbary States as they soon fell to the French.

              How could any apology add to our satisfaction with all this?


              jn

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              • blackhawknj
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 3754

                #8
                How about a Big Thank You to all the Boys in Blue who made the Supreme Sacrifice 1861-1865. I recall the scene in Glory where the Morgan Freeman character tells the Denzel Washington character that "white boys been out there dying ! I know because I dug the graves."

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                • Marty T.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 491

                  #9
                  The war of the states was NOT fought over slavery. Don't get that false story going again.

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10628

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Marty T.
                    The war of the states was NOT fought over slavery. Don't get that false story going again.
                    +1

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                    • Art
                      Senior Member, Deceased
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9256

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Marty T.
                      The war of the states was NOT fought over slavery. Don't get that false story going again.
                      Read the Declaration of Secession of the State of Mississippi.

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jon_norstog
                        In 1816, Edward Pellew commanded a joint Royal Navy-Dutch fleet against Algiers, pretty much wrecked the place and freed 1,200 slaves...
                        Recently read a history of the Viking attacks on Britain. Of course, gold, silver, & jewels were their first preference for plunder, but most of the countryside was devoid of anything of monetary value--except young men & women peasants suitable for enslavement. (The very young & old were merely slaughtered.) The highest bidders for white slaves were the Islamic kingdoms in what is now Morocco & Algeria, although they were also traded as far as Constantinople. No records exist to document the numbers kidnapped this way, but over the 200 yrs of intermittent Viking raids in the British Isles, the number of whites sold into slavery is estimated at many tens of thousands, at least. Should Britain also seek reparations?

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                        • dave
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6778

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Art
                          Read the Declaration of Secession of the State of Mississippi.
                          And the one from Arkansas and several other succeeding states. Those guys are revisionist history mongers, you will never convince them or educate them. And they will not answer or read what you say! "STATE RIGHTS" my ass, the 'states right' to have legal slavery! And the same people who are all for a Fed. law that denies a state the "right" to determine its own concealed carry regulations!
                          You can never go home again.

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                          • Marty T.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 491

                            #14
                            Yes I will answer. The South did have slaves. Some of the northern states had slaves. Lincoln himself said that if he could keep the states together without having to do away with slavery, he would do so. But the war was fought for the same reason EVERY war is fought, which is power or money. The north was trying to determine who the South could and could not do business with. And that is what the war was over. Money and power. Slavery was done away with in the South to keep them from being able to rebuild and become independent and go through the same thing again. You need to get educated. Slavery was just a second thought in the business side of things.

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dave
                              And the one from Arkansas and several other succeeding states. Those guys are revisionist history mongers, you will never convince them or educate them. And they will not answer or read what you say! "STATE RIGHTS" my ass, the 'states right' to have legal slavery! And the same people who are all for a Fed. law that denies a state the "right" to determine its own concealed carry regulations!
                              Arkansas became a State in 1836. The people freely voted to join the Union, they were not forced to join. Many of the same legislators and citizens that voted to join the Union voted to leave it. Today those people are criticized for the second vote but not the first. Slavery is not mentioned in relation to either proposition. The people didn't vote to join the union because they wanted to own slaves and they didn't leave the Union so they could keep them. Many, many, Arkansans from the north and western 1/2 of the State had never even seen a slave let alone owned one. If you look at the rank and file list of Confederate soldiers, the vast majority of them had never owned a slave. Then look at all the big Civil War battles... How many happened in Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, New Hampshire, Vermont, Ohio, Wisconsin, California, Nevada, and Oregon? Then name one Confederate State that didn't have major losses in battles in their own home State.

                              When asked, why he was fighting, one Confederate soldier said, "Because Y'all are here!"

                              When you say the Civil War was about slavery, is is the same thing as saying that WWII happened because Hitler invaded Poland! It was WAY, WAY, more complicated than that... as was the Civil War.
                              Last edited by RED; 01-11-2018, 01:51.

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