Tulammo Question

[Marty T.]

Kind of what I thought, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks for the input and think I'll steer clear of the steel case stuff. My rifle is old but very nice and I'm not interested in messing it up now. Had it since mid-80's and not even a scratch on the stock so I'm not going to foul up the insides to save a couple dollars.

[Sunray]

"...Russian Army has been using it for decades..." That means exactly nothing. And 'quality' means accurate.
The CF used IVI crap for eons. The stuff was reliable, but inaccurate compared to W.W. II vintage ammo.

[togor]

"...Russian Army has been using it for decades..." That means exactly nothing. And 'quality' means accurate.
The CF used IVI crap for eons. The stuff was reliable, but inaccurate compared to W.W. II vintage ammo.

I have about 500 pieces of 7.62 IVI pulldown brass, unfired. Haven't got to needing it yet. As brass, any good?

(I had some RO Radway Green SS109 that was junk as ammo but good reloading brass, so hoping IVI brass like that.)

[clintonhater]

The Russians are in this ammo market for MONEY!!!!!

No doubt; but doesn't that fall under the category of "capitalism"?

[togor]

No doubt; but doesn't that fall under the category of "capitalism"?

Well Lake City it ain't. The Russian stuff is priced at the "it may be junk but it's the cheapest junk so there's that" level.

[Art]

The Russians right now are probably at least as "capitalist" as we are, that's another issue though.

I limit my use of steel case ammunition to firearms meant to fire it which means almost anything Com-bloc or former Com-bloc. Interestingly the Nazis made vast amounts of lacquered steel case ammo so I'd include their guns in that too. One thing that rifles designed with steel case ammo in mind have in common are massive extractors. I expect there's a reason for that. You can probably shoot it in ARs or Mini 14s without incident but I wouldn't for reasons mentioned in above posts.

Quality wise it is what it is as they say. All I've shot has been sure fire, I've only had two malfunctions in all of the thousands of steel case ammo I've fired in my SKS, AK clone or HS 2000 (now the Springfield Armory XD.) It's more than accurate enough for the informal shooting I do with it, but that's all I would use it for. No matches, no hunting and for darn sure no self defense.

[togor]

The only Russian I shoot is some 9mm "Golden Bear" 115gr FMJ by Barnaul. My type 1 dealer let me take it off of his hands for cheap because it didn't cycle for crap in his S&W. Way underpowered in my Walthers, stovepipes like crazy. The G17 cycles it best, to about 95% confidence.

Great practice ammo....for teaching people how to handle malfunctions.

[Jiminvirginia]

I shot a box through my G42, .380, with zero malfuncions. I still wouldnt rely on it for serious use though. Decent ammo for the price in my opinion.