What do you think, should we allow non-citizens to serve?

[Ken The Kanuck]

I know many here have served and the US allows non-citizens in it's military I thought some may have an opinion.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/caf-military-foreign-recruits-1.4675889

Thanks

KTK

[Vern Humphrey]

Non-citizens can serve in the US Army -- in fact, Canadians frequently tell us that more Canadians served in the US Army in Viet Nam than Canada accepted deserters and draft dodgers. My position is anyone who volunteers and meets the acceptance criteria ought to be allowed to serve, and ought to receive his citizenship along with his honorable discharge.

[Major Tom]

When I served in the mid 60's, we had a German guy who had enlisted in the Army. After his 3 year term he was granted U.S. citizenship. He and I served together in 'Nam. Best trooper we had!

[SloopJohnB]

Yes, if they meet the requirements. If they serve honorably, they should be considered for citizenship.

[Herschel]

I agree with Vern Humphrey. If they complete their enlistment and get a honorable discharge they should get their citizenship along with the discharge. Non citizens can be considered for citizenship without ever serving in the U S Military.

[Mark in Ottawa]

I don't see a problem with it subject to obvious limitations (no suspected or potential communists or jihadis)

[Allen]

I disagree for the most part. Non-citizens means illegals. Military service should not become a path for them. We have a limited number that we allow to become citizens. These folks are merely getting ahead of everyone else by ignoring and defying our laws. Some of them like the DACA's that did not break our laws themselves could be considered but those who scaled our fences and got smuggled in? No.

[JB White]

Non-citizens means illegals.

Absolutely not correct. There are more legal resident aliens here than illegal border jumpers.

Ken, allowing non-citizens to serve in the Canadian armed forces is strictly up to them. I can see no reason why not. The mother country and several commonwealths already do. So, why not Canada?

[m1ashooter]

As I read the article its about opening enlistment to non citizens because not enough citizens are enlisting to protect the country and not enough are enlisting to fill the diversity goals!!! So why can't the ranks be filled from the citizen pool. We have a problem in the states in that its estimated 75% of our youth can not meet enlistment standards. Of the remaining 25% around 1% enlist. Does Canada have the same problem? In my opinion allowing non citizens to enlist to fill gov't directed diversity quotas is detrimental to the mission of the armed forces. I'm all for allowing non citizens to service in the armed forces if they serious about defending the nation they live in.

[Vern Humphrey]

I don't see a problem with it subject to obvious limitations (no suspected or potential communists or jihadis)

Those people would either not be allowed to enlist, or screened out afterwards. They wouldn't be honorably discharged.

I'm talking about jihidists, of course. Communists of course, would be virtually anyone from Massachusetts, NYC and much of California.

[togor]

Those people would either not be allowed to enlist, or screened out afterwards. They wouldn't be honorably discharged.

I'm talking about jihidists, of course. Communists of course, would be virtually anyone from Massachusetts, NYC and much of California.

LOL, as if everyone from MA, CA, or NYC is some kind of leftist p*ssy. A lot of tough guys come from those places.

[jjrothWA]

One of the Marines of Iwo Jima, was a registeres alien, back in 012/ 13, the USMC awarded his sister his citizenship papers.

This is a valid process for those that want to be legal, those that don't want the gravy not the responsibility.
JHR

[TomSudz]

No problem with non-citizens serving. I served with a South Korean, a West German, and a Filipino. All fine soldiers.

[JiminLE]

I served with non-citizens in the Navy during the 70's. I personally believe that if you serve a minimum of 6 years ACTIVE duty you should get your citizenship papers along with your Honorable discharge. Quite a few Filipinos would stay for 20 plus years and retire the go back to the Philippines and live on their retirement. At least they earned it.

[Sunray]

How does one determine the potential of a communist or jihadist?
Non-citizens enlisting to gain citizenship goes back to the Roman Empire. The CF can't fill the requirements now. Nothing unusual about it though. Enlistments tend to be cyclical based on the economy. Up when jobs are scarce. Down when they are not.
"...youth can not meet enlistment standards..." Mostly the physical ones? Or the educational requirements too? The former is caused by then being glued to chairs in front of computers. Most of those wouldn't consider enlisting anyway. The latter is too many high school drop outs.
"Non-citizens means illegals." is nonsense.