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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #1

    Socialist economics at work

    Venezuelan workers who earned a pittance are now earning a slightly larger pittance, thanks to a big increase in the minimum wage. What they may not have are jobs.

    Starting this week, 7 million employees are guaranteed 1,800 bolivars a month -- worth about $20 at the black-market rate. President Nicolas Maduro intended the mandate as political boost, but it’s having the opposite effect as companies, already hit by Venezuela’s epic economic contraction, tell workers they can’t afford to keep them.

  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #2
    Can you say economic refugee?
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      sounds just like what happened to us here 11 years ago .....

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Another candidate for the Byng award.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by Sandpebble
          sounds just like what happened to us here 11 years ago .....
          What were you complaining about, not enough "foreigners" for you?
          Sam

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          • dryheat
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 10587

            #6
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            Another candidate for the Byng award.
            Explain it, or stop.
            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              During the Seven Years War (which we call the French and Indian War) the British had a garrison on the island of Minorca in the Mediterranean. A French fleet landed a force on the island and the British were besieged. The British sent out a relief fleet under Sir John Byng.

              In those days the British Navy had a set of regulations called “Fighting Instructions.” Admiral Byng tried to bring the French to battle in accordance with those regulations and they wouldn’t cooperate. Finally, out of food and water and his ships needing repairs, he sailed away. The British garrison on Minorca surrendered.

              At his court martial, Byng was asked why he hadn’t tried various methods to smoke the French out, and to each suggestion he pointed out that wasn’t covered in “Fighting Instructions.” He was found guilty and shot by a firing squad.

              The Byng Award was created in his honor. It is given for the tenacious defense of absolute bullxxxx in the face of overwhelming common sense.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #8
                Let me quote the original post here:
                Venezuelan workers who earned a pittance are now earning a slightly larger pittance, thanks to a big increase in the minimum wage. What they may not have are jobs.

                Starting this week, 7 million employees are guaranteed 1,800 bolivars a month -- worth about $20 at the black-market rate. President Nicolas Maduro intended the mandate as political boost, but it’s having the opposite effect as companies, already hit by Venezuela’s epic economic contraction, tell workers they can’t afford to keep them.
                Now let me quote the candidate for the Byng Award:
                sounds just like what happened to us here 11 years ago .....
                Let's see the hands of all those who believe the United States was in this situation 11 years ago -- with the minimum wage being worth $20 a month, and people losing jobs because employers couldn't afford to pay it.

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                • Mark in Ottawa
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1744

                  #9
                  Last Wednesday Maduro got on a plane and headed to China to see if he could get some financial help. The first article I read suggested the he might just not bother to come back to Caracas but other articles are suggesting that the Chinese will strike a hard bargain and gain a major foothold in South America in exchange for a large loan. Remember that Venezuela has huge oil reserves.

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #10
                    Country For Sale. Cheap. Needs a little fixing up.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                    • Clark Howard
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2105

                      #11
                      Any chance that a few, (all?) of our dems will emigrate there after the Chicoms take over? Surely a paradise for them. Regards, Clark

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Clark Howard
                        Any chance that a few, (all?) of our dems will emigrate there after the Chicoms take over? Surely a paradise for them. Regards, Clark
                        I'm doing my best to encourage them -- I'll pay for half a dozen one-way tickets.

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          The fate of Admiral Byng prompted Voltaire's famous comment:
                          "In this country they consider it a good thing to shoot an admiral from time to time to encourage the others."
                          Maduro will find out that the "Socialist" countries are the most hardhearted and toughest negotiators on the planet. They give NOTHING away.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by blackhawknj
                            The fate of Admiral Byng prompted Voltaire's famous comment:
                            "In this country they consider it a good thing to shoot an admiral from time to time to encourage the others."
                            You nailed it!
                            Originally posted by blackhawknj
                            Maduro will find out that the "Socialist" countries are the most hardhearted and toughest negotiators on the planet. They give NOTHING away.
                            In their defense, I point out that when you go socialist, you don't HAVE much to give away!

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                            • dryheat
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10587

                              #15
                              Maduro will find out that the "Socialist" countries are the most hardhearted and toughest negotiators on the planet. They give NOTHING away.-

                              In their defense, I point out that when you go socialist, you don't HAVE much to give away!-

                              Good post by blackhawknj, but I am having trouble following the follow up. No one should ever give anything away in negotiations.
                              The Reds being good negotiators will not "give and inch" but they have plenty. It ain't yer daddies communism.
                              There's 75 billion people in China. The country is rich as all get out. Ten billion still starve every year,but they are rich.
                              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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