Bump Stock Buy Back

[tmark]

Delaware now has a law making it illegal to own a bump stock. As a matter of fact, the Delaware State Police will pay $100 for a bump stack and $15 for a trigger thing (never heard of something for the trigger). Any other states doing this?

Just saw on military channel about the last day of WWI. The armistice was signed 5 am but did not go into effect until 11 am. The bad news is more Americans were killed on this last day (3200, I think) than were killed on June 6, 1944. So sad.

I can't understand why the allied officers still sent men into needless battles only to be killed or maimed.

[JB White]

Delaware now has a law making it illegal to own a bump stock. As a matter of fact, the Delaware State Police will pay $100 for a bump stack and $15 for a trigger thing (never heard of something for the trigger). Any other states doing this?

Just saw on military channel about the last day of WWI. The armistice was signed 5 am but did not go into effect until 11 am. The bad news is more Americans were killed on this last day (3200, I think) than were killed on June 6, 1944. So sad.

I can't understand why the allied officers still sent men into needless battles only to be killed or maimed.

I haven't heard of any so-called buyback programs in my area yet. Not to say it won't happen now that someone has initiated things.

WW1. Per terms of the Armistice, on 11/11 @11:00, all forces were to cease and desist wherever they were on whatever ground they were holding at that time. Hence to big push to conquer as much territory as possible. It is also known that towns were major objectives if for no other reason than beds, shelter, and showers.

[Allen]

$15 for a trigger thing (never heard of something for the trigger).

Maybe a trigger "crank"? These were commonly sold for the Ruger 10/22's back in 70's-80's. Fit other models too.

http://twozprecision.com/product/gatcrank-15/

[togor]

I thought the USDOJ was working on a ban, on the logic that they're actually a MG part after all. Did that quietly go away?

[JB White]

I know the gung-ho crew will crucify me again for saying this. I have never seen any need for any device which hinders my total control over a firearm. Holding with one hand and cranking with the other, or letting it flop around loose in my hands isn't going to be done by me.

The only application of a crank trigger I can see is that on the "Gatling Gun" type conversions where the firearms are mounted to various platforms. Very few people have them but those should be exempted or at least grandfathered in.
I say that in spite of having no practical use for one myself, but they are a bona fide plinkers dream. A novelty item for the most part IMHO. A lot of fun right up there with the semi-auto M1919's etc. They aren't readily transported but are at least controllable in the sense of aimed fire. They'll probably make for good property protection under dire circumstances. Survivalists who plan to stay put could surely use them.
From what I have witnessed on a couple of rare occasions, simply adding a crank device and letting go means rounds are going anywhere from between the dirt to over the berm. The laughter of the shooters doesn't counter the hazards.

[Major Tom]

Most bump fire gizmos I've seen advertised cost a lot more that a hundred bucks. So, probably very few will turned in unless completely broken.

[p246]

Possibly binary trigger? In Kansas any form of gun buyback by the police is illegal....like living in a different country here.

[Allen]

With any type rapid fire device you are merely spraying . Although this worked out for the Las Vegas shooter who was blasting into a solid block of meat it wouldn't be very effective elsewhere and a person who wanted or needed to make every shot count would be better off just shooting semi.

As far as the novelty of it all I've heard of people taking the handle off of the trigger crank and attaching a cordless drill. The fun ends quickly though and Ruger 10/22's are no fun to re-load.

[jon_norstog]

[QUOTE=tmark;543272.......
Just saw on military channel about the last day of WWI. The armistice was signed 5 am but did not go into effect until 11 am. The bad news is more Americans were killed on this last day (3200, I think) than were killed on June 6, 1944. So sad.

I can't understand why the allied officers still sent men into needless battles only to be killed or maimed.[/QUOTE]


I saw those articles, too. It was nuts! The war was over and they were just killing men for nothing.

jn

[dryheat]

Chess pieces. Generals. War. Blind obediance. Ignorance.
A long time ago here in AZ there was a gunfight in the Galiuros mtns. The old man wasn't going to send his boys to some stupid war.
They holed up in the cabin and held out. As usual, it didn't turn out well.

Dang, I hate to sound liberal, but how did the ATF not clamp down on bump stocks? It's all great fun until someone gets hurt.
You think Trump is bad? If I was president... Super Mario. That's all you get.

[jgaynor]

Bump Stocks Et al. = toys for jerkoffs.

[Sunray]

"...commonly sold for the Ruger 10/22's..." Sold for any semi-auto .22 or AR style rifles. I believe the ATF decided they were too evil years ago. There were several made. One of 'em was the BMF Activator.
Amazing how assorted PD's will cry about funding then set up a system to "buy back" something they never owned.

Private George Lawrence Price, "A" Company of the 28th Battalion (Northwest), CEF(Canadian Expeditionary Force), AKA Saskatchewan Regiment, was the last troopie killed in W.W. I. Shot by a German sniper at 10:57 AM, died at 10:58 AM, 11 Nov. 1918 at Ville-sur-Haine, Belgium.

Private Henry Nicholas John Gunther, 313th Infantry Regiment, 79th Div., AEF, died one minute later in the village of Chaumont-devant-Damvillers, Lorraine. Charged a German MG position against orders.

[USMilitaryGuy]

Bump Stocks Et al. = toys for jerkoffs.

. . . and this is why we will never win.

United we stand. Divided we fall.

For what it is worth, although I have sixteen shotguns in my collection, I am not the least bit interested in shooting them . . . or even hunting for that matter.

However, I do realize that when "they" decide you don't need to hunt since you can just buy your meat at the store and therefore you don't need shotguns. They will become illegal to own.

Of course, by then my US military sniper rifles (and other scoped rifles) will already be illegal since "who needs a weapon of war?". The shotgun shooters didn't care.

Really? Who can't see how this is going to end?

[dryheat]

Bump stocks are "machine guns" and we aren't allowed to and shouldn't have them.

[togor]

. . . and this is why we will never win.

United we stand. Divided we fall.

For what it is worth, although I have sixteen shotguns in my collection, I am not the least bit interested in shooting them . . . or even hunting for that matter.

However, I do realize that when "they" decide you don't need to hunt since you can just buy your meat at the store and therefore you don't need shotguns. They will become illegal to own.

Of course, by then my US military sniper rifles (and other scoped rifles) will already be illegal since "who needs a weapon of war?". The shotgun shooters didn't care.

Really? Who can't see how this is going to end?

Domino theory. But not every domino chain is guaranteed to run end to end just because a first one falls over. And real life is more complicated than dominos.

The more stuff they try to take away, the wider the pool of negatively impacted people and hence the greater base for opposition.

That said my preference is not see equipment put on banned lists. If it becomes necessary to do something then focus on the people, the anti-social types who go off. Law abiding gun owners should continue to have a reasonable path to ownership for items of their own choosing.