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  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #46
    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
    No, the CUSTOMERS put the Mom and Pop stores out of business. If you want to keep Mom and Pop in business, keep shopping there.
    Yes and no.

    When a new WM opens they have employees crawling all over each other. All the full serve registers are manned and they are waiting for you, not the other way around. The shelves are well stocked and kept stocked.

    How can you not help but shop at such a place?

    Then, after a short while (weeks or months) you notice that things are changing and going to the ghost town conditions listed previously. You try to trade at the Mom and Pop stores but they have left. Some close on their own feeling it would just be inevitable before customers would choose 24/7 convenience and wide variety over them. Some who are successful end up selling out. When I worked at the refinery we worked 12 hour rotating shifts with no means to leave the place at lunch time and few of us packed a lunch due to the short turnaround at home so we took turns and went to WM early in the mornings (when on day shifts) and cooked in the control rooms. This was done around 4am on the way in to work so here again they had the advantage over the Mom and Pop stores. At a place this big you are talking about hundreds of people too.

    We do have smaller chain stores that are doing impressive business now, most may be regional and unheard of across the country like Winn Dixie, Piggly Wiggly, and the best, Publix, who started out charging sky high prices and have now seen the light. They have been here for years and still operate like a newly opened WM with an abundance of cashiers and even baggers. They just don't have the non-food variety like auto supplies, hardware, electronics and so on. For that I just go to O'Reilly's auto parts, Lowes, Home Depot, Best Buy and such. Though I don't shop there I hear that the dollar stores are doing better than before business too.

    Not meaning to bite the hand that feeds Sam and his family. I have friends who work at WM, my son worked there a couple of summers as a cashier when in high school and I know people who work there just for the great insurance. The problem is there are fewer and fewer of them in the stores. Too few.
    Last edited by Allen; 12-28-2018, 10:08.

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    • JOHN COOK
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 711

      #47
      If you are going to shop at Wallie World get smart. Go early. Wife wanted a few things last night and I advised her to make a list. I wake up every day around 5 or 6 A.M. Left the house at 6:30 AM almost filled up a cart,(some for my Church Pantry) they had two check out lines open plus self check. Stockers were there and one I spoke to had been there since 10:00 PM Thursday night. Isles were pretty clear. No one was ahead of me , checked out, parked close by and was back home by 7:30. I know some of you don't have the opportunity to shop early, unless you are retired, but it's the way I shop. If wife is along it's pure torture . Looks at everything pushes cart on left side of aisle and walks to slow for me. My opinion driving rules apply. Right side of aisle as you do in a car. Let me make this clear, she is a great lady. Has to be to put up with some of the crap I pulled off ...

      john
      “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #48
        FYI I have shopped at this time and it is a good time to shop. If there is a manned cashier and if it is a "20 items or less" aisle it doesn't matter since it will probably be the only one open (or needed).

        But, during my crazy hours of the past I have been to WM at all times. If you go between about midnight till 4:00am the store is open but you can not walk down the aisles because they are cleaning with propane powered sweepers and shampooers. The aisles are roped off and being stocked usually by contractors in street clothing. There are boxes and pallets everywhere. Many will ask what you need and offer to go get it for you but you have to know what aisle your item is in.

        This part I'm not complaining about since the shelves have to be restocked and the stores are kept clean. I just brought it up in case you may have thought "hey, I'll just go during the wee hours of the morning and have the place to myself".
        Last edited by Allen; 12-28-2018, 01:06.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #49
          Originally posted by JB White
          There is no theft because they have a second tier of checkers at the exit.
          Not at grocery stores.

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          • JOHN COOK
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 711

            #50
            FYI I have shopped at this time and it is a good time to shop. If there is a manned cashier and if it is a "20 items or less" aisle it doesn't matter since it will probably be the only one open (or needed).
            I thought I made it clear that cashiers were there and self check was also there. Walmart in my town does not stay open after 12:00. They open at 6:00 AM. Maybe I'm lucky to live in a small town..
            With that, "So Mote It Be"

            john
            “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10583

              #51
              While I wasn't disputing your word I guess it looked that way. I write from my experiences here and assume they're the same all over. I've been to the store many times in the early hours (4-5am) and had to wait at the only register that had a light on and wait for a cashier to show up. All the WM's I shop at are open 24/7, only closing on Christmas morning for a few hours but some do close at 11 or 12pm mostly in cities that have a few that run 24 hours. Things may have changed recently but when I shopped very early the self checks were not open due to needing a human to oversee them. These 24hr stores traditionally operate with a skeleton crew during off peak hours. My most recent findings are they have started doing that during the busy hours as well, even at Christmas. I've been advised by some employees that the plans are for all the stores to go to self check system with only one or two manned registers like I mentioned with my first comment. The trend here is that the smaller chain grocery stores are coming back to life.
              Last edited by Allen; 12-28-2018, 05:32.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #52
                Originally posted by clintonhater
                Not theft, but getting even for lack of sufficient checkers.
                theft is theft,

                your getting even is still theft,

                even it the self checkout attendant is busy with someone else,

                and yes, I have prosecuted for it, and won,,,

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #53
                  your getting even is still theft, -

                  My girlfriend works at a Big Store. As a boot camp Greeter she asked a Mexican to see his receit. He knocked her down and got away(not a big getaway,since he just went to the parking lot and got in his car and drove away). After the tears and stress she learned you don't intervene. Since then she has witnessed numerous theft's. Maybe for fun, I'll hang around the Big Store and be a detective.
                  I've thought about the leniency that big stores accept. I could walk out and wave a receit from a week or so ago and be gold. I don't do that. And neither do the majority of Americans, well except those schooled elsewhere.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10583

                    #54
                    17 stores is not a big deal but it may show a reverse trend.

                    Management just doesn't understand nor do they want to understand. Even the WM employee's complain about conditions.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #55
                      Originally posted by dryheat
                      your getting even is still theft, -

                      My girlfriend works at a Big Store. As a boot camp Greeter she asked a Mexican to see his receit. He knocked her down and got away(not a big getaway,since he just went to the parking lot and got in his car and drove away). After the tears and stress she learned you don't intervene. Since then she has witnessed numerous theft's. Maybe for fun, I'll hang around the Big Store and be a detective.
                      I've thought about the leniency that big stores accept. I could walk out and wave a receit from a week or so ago and be gold. I don't do that. And neither do the majority of Americans, well except those schooled elsewhere.
                      it is about percentages,

                      the shrink percentage that is acceptable by corporate may be higher, or lower , than what that store has,

                      while some areas have higher shoplifting rates than others, fact is more shrink is caused by paperwork errors, shipping\receiving issues and employee stupidity in more stores that shoplifting is,,


                      also, employee theft is usually about the same rate percent wise as customer theft

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