Bump Stocks

[lyman]

Allen, you're making sense again. Those who will not surrender will hide them only to appear on the black market later on. There are no means available to trace current owners. If they (ATF) want them off the market they should be bought off at the most recent MSRP. A lot cheaper than establishing another legal boondoggle.

some could be traced thru credit card receipts and maybe store receipts, (if anyone kept them),

of course, tracing them in tha way is outside the jurisdiction of the ATF

[Allen]

some could be traced thru credit card receipts and maybe store receipts, (if anyone kept them),

of course, tracing them in tha way is outside the jurisdiction of the ATF

And after all that trouble if they caught up with you, you could always say "I sold that long ago" or "I destroyed it".

[JB White]

some could be traced thru credit card receipts and maybe store receipts, (if anyone kept them),

of course, tracing them in tha way is outside the jurisdiction of the ATF

ATF is Treasury Department. They certainly have the means to do it. Still, the resources and man-hours involved would be well beyond the total buy off costs.
Could they make arrangements to do it via vouchers on income tax returns?

[lyman]

ATF is Treasury Department. They certainly have the means to do it. Still, the resources and man-hours involved would be well beyond the total buy off costs.
Could they make arrangements to do it via vouchers on income tax returns?

ATF is several branchs, the compliance guys are DOJ, some other positions are Treasury,

and they don't communicate well among themselves,



easiest was would be to start at the source (us made or imported) and follow the trail to the retailers,
after that, I am not sure how long a retailer would keep a detailed enough receipt (couple years, maybe 7 for tax purposes??)

my Brother and I own a small business, we don't keep that detail of receipts, for sales, no need to , (just report the income, and sales tax)
I think I sold one bumpstock for a friend, via gunbroker,
they (gunborker) don't save any listing (other than the item number) past 90 days

[JB White]

Unlike my reaction to the (now expired) hi-cap magazine ban, I didn't rush out to buy any bump stocks. Bottom line is this is a badly written law. I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to own a bump stock, but something like this is the first tentacle of a growing demon if allowed to stand.

[barretcreek]

Bottom line is this is a badly written law.

+1 JB. As you say the problem is where will it lead. The 1986 law prohibiting new 'machine guns' established the ability to ban a type of weapon.