Antique RR watch

[lyman]

My Ball Watch
As indicated it is an 18 size watch, almost as large as a Baby Ben alarm clock. It belonged to my uncle who railroaded in the SW prior to WWI. When he joined the navy in WWI, he sold or hocked it to my other uncle who kept it until the 1980’s, when he passed on and I inherited it.

I have my fathers 23 Jewel Waltham Vanguard and my 23 jewel; Waltham Vanguard (which I bought when I worked for the Illinois Central before entering WWII). My Vanguard is adjusted for 6 positions and has the wind indicator. I paid $40 for it in 1943.
It is becoming very difficult and expensive to have these watches repaired or maintained.

Ball (Hamilton) 18s 17j 992B LS OF S/N 28400 double roller escapement Adj 6ps temp RR Grade circa 1900 Sapphire pallets safety pinion
Dial excellent condition marked “Official RR Standard “
Runs and keeps time.
Case some wear on gold colored case.
Used by my uncle while railroading in SW US prior to WWI

[img]https://imgur.com/GXbxDIF[/img]

https://imgur.com/7Ye4Sw7

https://imgur.com/UuqwWOD

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https://imgur.com/0NAjd2p

seeing if I can make the pics show




nope

[Cosine26]

I just click on them with my mouse and they open. On my I pad I jut touch the address and they open. These should be url addresses using imgur. I can open on my Dell, my HP, or my IPAD, using Windows XP, Seven or Ten or the APPLE OS, whatever came with THE IPAD. I do not know how to embed pictures on the web site.

[lyman]

I just click on them with my mouse and they open. On my I pad I jut touch the address and they open. These should be url addresses using imgur. I can open on my Dell, my HP, or my IPAD, using Windows XP, Seven or Ten or the APPLE OS, whatever came with THE IPAD. I do not know how to embed pictures on the web site.

I've imbeded pics her before but not from imgur,

thought a simple img/img might work for those who did not want to click,



and a very nice watch

[Merc]

My Ball Watch
As indicated it is an 18 size watch, almost as large as a Baby Ben alarm clock. It belonged to my uncle who railroaded in the SW prior to WWI. When he joined the navy in WWI, he sold or hocked it to my other uncle who kept it until the 1980’s, when he passed on and I inherited it.

I have my fathers 23 Jewel Waltham Vanguard and my 23 jewel; Waltham Vanguard (which I bought when I worked for the Illinois Central before entering WWII). My Vanguard is adjusted for 6 positions and has the wind indicator. I paid $40 for it in 1943.
It is becoming very difficult and expensive to have these watches repaired or maintained.

Ball (Hamilton) 18s 17j 992B LS OF S/N 28400 double roller escapement Adj 6ps temp RR Grade circa 1900 Sapphire pallets safety pinion
Dial excellent condition marked “Official RR Standard “
Runs and keeps time.
Case some wear on gold colored case.
Used by my uncle while railroading in SW US prior to WWI

https://imgur.com/GXbxDIF

https://imgur.com/7Ye4Sw7

https://imgur.com/UuqwWOD

https://imgur.com/AOvjMxn

https://imgur.com/0NAjd2p

Your 18S Ball-Hamilton was made in 1898 and is very desirable as are the Waltham RR grade watches. Thanks for sharing. Edit: Make sure you record all known information on your watches because it will add to their value.

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Here’s an unusual US military aircraft dashboard clock that’s actually an Elgin 8 day running pocket watch that I picked at an antique shop yesterday.

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I did some research on the model number and this military aircraft clock/watch was made in 1943 which places it in WW2.

[Merc]

Here are some photos of a nice 14K pocket watch that I bought back in 1970. It was presented to a guy who worked for the B&O Railroad (retirement gift?). It is interesting to note that it is a hunting-case watch, which was not approved for carry after the 1893 ruling on railroad approved watches.
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The inscription reads: PRESENTED TO THOMAS TAYLOR BY THE ENGINEERS FIREMEN AND SHOPMEN OF THE B&O RR NEWARK, OHIO JAN 19TH 1885

The retirement gift watches cased in gold were often placed in drawers and only worn for special occasions (if at all) and are therefore in mostly “as new” condition. The inscription is interesting and adds to the story of the watch. Thanks for posting. I’m not familiar with the manufacturer. Is it Swiss?

[Conductor]

The retirement gift watches cased in gold were often placed in drawers and only worn for special occasions (if at all) and are therefore in mostly “as new” condition. The inscription is interesting and adds to the story of the watch. Thanks for posting. I’m not familiar with the manufacturer. Is it Swiss?

The maker of the movement, Agassiz, was a well-known (to the trade) Swiss watch manufacturer who made watch movements for a number of high-end retailers. Tiffany, Patek-Phillipe, and Cartier all sold watches made by Agassiz.

[Merc]

The maker of the movement, Agassiz, was a well-known (to the trade) Swiss watch manufacturer who made watch movements for a number of high-end retailers. Tiffany, Patek-Phillipe, and Cartier all sold watches made by Agassiz.

Learned something new. Thanks.

[Cosine26]

Hi Lyman
Were you ever able to open the pictures?
Try thus link:

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/ball/28400

Look down in the lower left corner and you will see a description of the Ball Watch. Copy the urls shown and paste them into your address line add try open them . Perhaps our brwser will not let you open them. I use both MS Exporer and Opera

[lyman]

Hi Lyman
Were you ever able to open the pictures?
Try thus link:

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/ball/28400

Look down in the lower left corner and you will see a description of the Ball Watch. Copy the urls shown and paste them into your address line add try open them . Perhaps our brwser will not let you open them. I use both MS Exporer and Opera

absolutely,

was just trying to have them show up for other members here that may not trust or want to click the link,

I run Chrome, so no issues

[Cosine26]

This was my father’s watch. It is a 23 Jewel, Waltham Vanguard. The 1920’s were not good times for all. My father operated a hardware store and this man came in and needed money. My father lent him either $5 or $10 and held the watch as collateral. The man never returned so my father had a watch. He carried this watch until he passed in 1954 and inherited it from him. This was a working watch so it has some case wear. In the days before WWI, wrist watches were considered “sissy”. I do not believe that my father ever wore a wrist watch until he served with AEF in WWI.
I have just had the watch cleaned and a new main spring stalled. If you click on the picture it will grow larger-at least it does for me.
16 size
S/N 220530076
Open Face
Lever set
Adj for temp
Adj 5 pos
RR Grade
Montgomery Dial

https://imgur.com/thitx6B

[Cosine26]

Nav Watch
When I was a navigator/bombardier in the USAF , I was issued two watches. One was a wrist watch called a “hack” watch for non precise navigation = ded reckoning. This could be reset in flight from the “master” watch

The other was a “master” watch”. It was encased in a MU metal container with a covered viewing window and used for celestial navigation. In determining longitude it was necessary to know the exact GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). A rule of thumb said that a 4 second error inn time equaled a mile in error.

Here is the data stamped on the rear of the case:
AN 5740
Hamilton 4992B
22 jewel
Stem set (and could be hacked form the chronometer in Base Ops)(Obviously not RR Grade)
ADJ Temp 6 ps
S/N AF42-30852 on case- movement was not serialized
Contract No W535 ac 28072
s/N 42-30852 ( No serial number on movement)
It has a 24 hour dial

https://imgur.com/TDbxCH1

[Merc]

The maker of the movement, Agassiz, was a well-known (to the trade) Swiss watch manufacturer who made watch movements for a number of high-end retailers. Tiffany, Patek-Phillipe, and Cartier all sold watches made by Agassiz.

Auguste Agassiz was the founder of the Longines Watch Co. That bit of information ties it all together. It’s probably not rare to see Agassiz’s name on a watch dial, but not common either.

[Merc]

My 1943 Elgin 8 Day Military Aircraft Dashboard Clock has been running continuously for the past week if I wind it every day.

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I’ve been searching the internet trying to see if I could determine what type of aircraft would have had this clock installed in its dashboard but
I haven’t had any luck.

[Cosine26]

Hi Merc
That is quite a common USAF and USAAF item and was found in many different types of aircraft. I was a comm officer in a F84 squadron and flew B26's in Korea and B29's and B47's in SAC during the 1950's. I have flown other USAF aircraft and most all were equipped with this type of clock. It was very susceptible to theft and most crew chiefs had to keep an eye on them.
FWIW

[Cosine26]

https://kenrockwell.com/watches/waltham/a-13a.htm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-USAAF-Air-Force-Elgin-Airplane-Cockpit-Clock-1943-from-P-38-Lightning-/174171327090

here is a site showing a variants