Old men

[S.A. Boggs]

This is one of the most depressing discussions that I have ever read here. Unfortunately I am in my 70's and this is partly my present and likely my future

As they say, old age isn't for sissies

I hope NO ONE'S present/future is cancer. I am going into 18 months remission and I am glad with my present situation of aches and pains...at least they are not cancer. Every 90 days blood work/scope to check progress. For all those who are going thru something, at least you able to do something! When I was in treatment I looked forward to being able to walk without assistance, not having to have a pump connected to my chest port, being able to having the ability to drink something cold, to being able to eat. Each morning I wake up hurting when I get out of bed and thankful for whatever the day has in store for me. This time 3 years ago I started down my cancer path scared of the treatment, knowing I had no choice except one.
I have more now then I did three years ago, a better and warmer truck, a much larger home, you guys to put up with me. Hang in there, it does get better...just depends on how you look at your situation. Remember, your glass is half empty, half full or you want to find the SOB who is drinking out of your glass!
Sam

[PWC]

CPAP since 2006. Clean weekly with cheap Heintz white vinegar in the tube; block the ends an swish back and forth for awhile. Vinegar to 1/4 full of the bottom of water chamber eats out the hard water scale. Wash mask with soap and water and/or Purell. I customized the cushion to keep from squeezing my nose. Sometimes 3-4 drops in the chamber (just barely smell) at bed time seems to be more restfull sleep.

Use a cane in the morning to get up and make sure everything is pointing/moving the same direction. Sound like rice krispies (Snap, Crackle, Pop) for awhile.

No snore; no elbow in the back or ribs. My wife now has one too......Ahhhh, the bliss......

[dryheat]

CPAP, CPAP, what is CPAP?(old star trek qoute). Maybe something about sleep apena. I'm single, If I get it, no one is there to correct it. I'm sixty eight. I can still do a fifty yard dash for about five yards. Maybe, 'cause at six feet tall, I weighed 145 clean up until I was twenty. All I ever wanted was ten more pounds. I sure as heck don't want to get smug about my health. I take blood thinners and advorstatins for colesterol. But I'm not a pill taker. I will do what is sensible to a point but; you get old you get sick and you die. Have a little fun in there. Get off yer ass. Take a walk. Get a dog and take him for a walk, it's just a dog, he might outlive you. I worry about my dog for that reason. I just went down to the river and caught a couple of fish. To make it easier, I had to climb out on a limb and saw off an offending branch. I had to take my sneakers and socks off and roll up my pants legs. The water was cold. Sawing the branch made my arm hurt. I damn near gave up on it half way through. I reconciled that I was out there and not to be a baby(but cold water hurts). I'm going to take my camera and get a great shot of the mtn, loosing that branch will make the picture better, I'll post it. Every journey starts with a single step. Quite smoking, did I mention that?

[PWC]

Well at least we live in the valley where we can walk in water in Jan, many othets can walk on it in Jan.

[CJCulpeper]

I hope NO ONE'S present/future is cancer. ...

No cancer. I am looking at a killer stroke some where in time between 2038 and 2048. Ya can't escape genetics. It is living every day as if it is my last until then.

[Allen]

No cancer. Ya can't escape genetics.

Unfortunately we all have cancer cells. We just don't all get the progressive growth of cancer cells. Just like auto accidents, you can't rule it out.

[CJCulpeper]

Perhaps not but life threatening cancers does not run in the family. I agree with you I can not rule it out but based on my folks, grandparents, and great grandparents I look to having heart attacks or strokes in my eighties.

Until then pass the likkor jug and the ammunition and show me the way to the women.

[Merc]

I"ve had kidney stones twice, the pain was unbearable, morphine was the only thing that stopped me from killing myself!

Does anyone remember a method of dissolving kidney stones using shock waves? You’d sit in a tank filled with water and shock waves would be administered that were harmless to bones and tissue but would pulverize the kidney stones and turn the color of urine to a dark brown.

[Allen]

Does anyone remember a method of dissolving kidney stones using shock waves? You’d sit in a tank filled with water and shock waves would be administered that were harmless to bones and tissue but would pulverize the kidney stones and turn the color of urine to a dark brown.

You don't hear much about it anymore. I've always heard that you can't have this procedure if you've ever had a broken bone. The repaired bone is sometimes stronger than before but the deposits are more brittle and thus can come apart with the ultrasound, so I'm told. This is perhaps broken bones only that would be submerged in the tank I guess.

https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/kidneystones_shockwave

[Greyjoy]

i have a bad back now. its painful and slows me down

[lyman]

Does anyone remember a method of dissolving kidney stones using shock waves? You’d sit in a tank filled with water and shock waves would be administered that were harmless to bones and tissue but would pulverize the kidney stones and turn the color of urine to a dark brown.

lipsotrypsy, or something spelled similar


my mother has had it done several times,


I am fortunate enough, I guess, to pass all mine,,

[Duane Hansen]

Had kidney stones some years ago. This was the worst pain that l had ever experienced! They sent me to the hospital and they strapped a machine to my side and cranked it up. It broke up the stones with some sort of shock waves so that l was able to pass it. It was like pissing shards of glass. It sliced and diced on the way out and a pissed blood for a few days. They had to put a stint in where the stone was lodged because it chewed up that spot. The stint kept the healing from causing scar tissue and partial blockage. They did put me out for this procedure and l was pleased at the results.

[JB White]

I know someone who has the sound treatment for stones just a few years ago, so they are still using it in some places.

I went through some serious bouts with kidney stones myself so I know the pain involved. Fever, burning guts, excruciating backache, nausea, and the constant urge for movements as the body wants to purge what ails it. It does indeed feel as though death is knocking.
So long as the stones show some movement the hospital won't do anything except ring up larger bills as you wait.
I discovered if I kept on drinking water while pacing I could eventually shoot out the bullet. That is painful in itself but what a wave of relief when it happens.
Years ago it was suggested that a little bit of citrus everyday would keep the dust from collecting into rocks. A squeeze of lime into soda or water is just enough to keep the kidneys in order. So far so good..but for passing some dust in the earlier days.
I'm told there are three types of stones depending upon the minerals we injest. The citrus is said to work on the two most common. Calcium.... I can't recall which of the other two at the moment. It's been working well for me.

As an aside, pain management studies have shown that men passing stones are often much more painful than childbirth. So the next time a woman tries to put you down with that age old adage... Fire back.

***Reminded of an old joke between men, women, childbirth, and stones. You will never hear a man say, "Gee, I'd like to have another kidney stone someday."

[SwampRatt]

I went on a lemon juice regimen for calcium stones. Had to quit that when we discovered it was eroding my teeth. The acid.

[Allen]

I went on a lemon juice regimen for calcium stones. Had to quit that when we discovered it was eroding my teeth. The acid.

I wonder how much, how strong and how often you would need to drink the lemon juice or lemon juice mixture to aid with the kidney stones but not cause side effects like heartburn and excessive acid on the teeth.