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  • dobek
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 929

    #16
    I used to think spread my ashes in the ocean - then I got involved in genealogy. A grave / tombstone leaves a link between the past and the future. It allows a future generation to find you and say - “that was my great great great grandfather. “

    It may take a while (for me generations) before someone recognizes you again - I am heading to the ancestrial homeland in June and the cemetery is my first stop followed by the farmland they owned.

    So - be a link to the past for those yet to come

    Steve

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10580

      #17
      Originally posted by dobek
      I used to think spread my ashes in the ocean - then I got involved in genealogy. A grave / tombstone leaves a link between the past and the future. It allows a future generation to find you and say - “that was my great great great grandfather. “

      It may take a while (for me generations) before someone recognizes you again - I am heading to the ancestrial homeland in June and the cemetery is my first stop followed by the farmland they owned.

      So - be a link to the past for those yet to come

      Steve
      But do it tastefully--not like these folks did.



      Last edited by Allen; 02-26-2019, 11:46.

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      • RED
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11689

        #18
        cheap

        I will be cremated (cheap shipping) and I will burried in the same grave as my wife of 49 years, 10 mo's in the MO veteran's Cemetary in Higginsville, MO. (free), and the thouands of dollars of funeral expenses can go to educating grand kids.

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        • dryheat
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 10587

          #19
          Originally posted by Sunray
          I want a pyramid. Nobody's getting my stuff. Told my useless brother to build me one years ago and have yet to hear about the construction being started.
          "...spread them..." Isn't legal everywhere.
          "...simple inexpensive caskets..." No such thing. And our government(Provincial) has a lot of rules about what you can and cannot do with your carcass. Starting with your grave must be lined with concrete. No embalming means you'll get planted faster without visitation or service. Apparently within 72 hours of croaking. Isn't required by law here though.
          You should get better help.
          The "father of Arizona" has a pyramid. So,we all know that funerals are for the living. God, I hate work and putting on a great funeral is a little work. Fortunately it's all over in a matter of days, so do it right. I was the best man at my best friends second wedding(and event kinda like a funeral). I studied up on it a little and got some good advice; Like anything else, it's not about you. Don't tell awful high school stories about him. Don't drink before the advent(unless it's called for)and tell awful and weird stories. In a word: funerals are for the living. We aren't all Captain Call, don't ask for the ridiculous. Aside from that, have the courtesey to make out a will(if you have anything of monetary value, not "collectables")so there isn't a fight afterwards. Doesn't matter what you do, if your family likes to fight, it'll be a fight.
          Last edited by dryheat; 02-27-2019, 01:15.
          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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          • PWC
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1366

            #20
            With my nephew, my family name dies out. He has no son, all the rest of the males had daughters. There will be a link, but the name dies.

            My girls are in their 50s and don't care about geneology. My wife and I have quite a bit.... I always thought it interesting that my grandmother was born in a covered wagon in Oklahoma Indian Territory. Of course we played cowboys and indians outside when we were little. My kids played inside, Space Invaiders, and my grand kids play Warcraft.

            I think before I die I'll put it all inside a trunk, with other things important, to my wife and me, and put a big lock on it and throw awsy the key. When my wife and I are dead the kids will wonder what was so important to be locked away like that. They will have to expend some effort to find out what we thought was that important. What they do with it after that is up to them.
            Last edited by PWC; 02-27-2019, 08:45.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10580

              #21
              Originally posted by PWC
              With my nephew, my family name dies out. He has no son, all the rest of the males had daughters. There will be a link, but the name dies.
              My case is very similar, when my son goes the name ends. If he nor my daughter have offspring then the family ends as well upon their passing. They are adults now and show no interest in the existing family graves. I feel me and my wife's passing will not change things in that respect much. Like mentioned before most of my friends and classmates are in the same boat having moved away or died off. I don't feel anyone is going to come and look for my grave nor my wife's so that is why I had considered cremation. Since that isn't doable any longer I will end up "planted". I intend to get a large headstone w/o the vases because there will be no one to maintain them. To me a cemetery is just a junk yard for old worn out bodies but like you guys have said "it's for the living, not the dead". I don't want to be strung up like Mussolini but once dead it's not going to matter much how our families arrange the farewell.

              Since funerals ARE for the living, if you are considering cremation you may want to discuss it with those who will survive you, not just your wife but your children. It may be all too upsetting for them.
              Last edited by Allen; 02-27-2019, 10:05.

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              • Chaz
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 765

                #22
                True story: Old Elmer died about 30 years ago. He requested cremation and asked his two best friends to fly his Cessna over the California coastline at Big Sur and spread his ashes in the Pacific. Over the drop zone, one of the guys opened the plane's window, reached out and dumped Elmer's ashes. But he was sucked back into the cabin where he swirled around before settling in every nook n cranny of that Cessna.

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                • holdover
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 549

                  #23
                  I will be cremated and my ashes cast to the wind on my farm. There will be no viewing, if my wife and son decide to have a memorial service that is up to them. I am a member of the VFW, the AL, DAV and the fire dept. I request no action on any ones part. When I am gone if I am to be remembered it is for my service to my country and community, I desire no fanfare. The older I get the friends I had are rapidly passing, there may be a time that I am the last man standing among my friends of my generation.

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                  • bdm
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 613

                    #24
                    This Burial is a classic one

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #25
                      We had a nice funeral in my church 3 years ago. A longtime (60 years) member and matriarch -all four of her children, her grand children and GREAT grandchildren are members, she was a member of the fire department's Ladies Auxiliary for 60 years-planned her service. At the conclusion her coffin was loaded onto a fire truck, the police closed the road for the procession to the cemetery.

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                      • dobek
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 929

                        #26
                        Ok two fun “death” stories -

                        Family friend was a landing craft sailor during d-day and wanted to be buried at sea after cremation. So his son has ashes put in a vase made of salt - charters a boat near Pismo Beach CA - very solemn - few words - tears - wreath in water - son leans over rail - drops vase straight down. Now picture what happens when you drop a rock in the water..... yep .... ker-plunk and water splashes back up and soaks son.... I’m not sure who laughed first - but it made the whiskey taste that much better knowing Johnny had the last laugh....

                        Second story - in Sacramento the Coast Guard would dump ashes at sea from a C130 for military members and wives. My aunt Jackie was a Navy Chiefs wife (back when Chiefs ran the Navy) - and as Jackie is dying of cancer, she shares that she wants to be spread at sea. So on THE day - my dad has the box of ashes on the passenger front seat of the car and stops at a light. He looks over and starts laughing uncontrollably- he says he looked over and thought “well theres Jackie in the box” - it became a standard Dad Joke from then on.

                        Steve

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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10580

                          #27
                          Originally posted by blackhawknj
                          We had a nice funeral in my church 3 years ago. A longtime (60 years) member and matriarch -all four of her children, her grand children and GREAT grandchildren are members, she was a member of the fire department's Ladies Auxiliary for 60 years-planned her service. At the conclusion her coffin was loaded onto a fire truck, the police closed the road for the procession to the cemetery.
                          A nearby business owner had a large service station with a wrecker service. He owned about 5 wreckers and enjoyed running one himself vs the headache of running the business. He really enjoyed driving a wrecker. He opened up for business every day around 6am. One morning right after he opened someone went in and shot him in his office (over money?). His family also ran the business and I suppose they knew his wishes. His coffin was loaded on one of his rollback wreckers and the entire funeral procession was directed thru the service station as part of the route to the cemetery.

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                          • retread12345
                            Member
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 96

                            #28
                            As a born again Christian cremation is an option Would like the ashes fired from a cannon in about a 37mm shell GO OUT WITH A BANG

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                            • M1Tommy
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1027

                              #29
                              Originally posted by retread12345
                              As a born again Christian cremation is an option Would like the ashes fired from a cannon in about a 37mm shell GO OUT WITH A BANG
                              I like that!
                              Wifey works with a lot of chronically and terminally ill folks, and has a rather well developed sense of gallows humor. She tells me, "Dear, go and plan all you want... I'll do whatever I want you know", while smiling sweetly.
                              Honestly, if my body or parts can help anyone, including students, I'd as well see them benefit. I will say that, am not a fan of the organ sellers profiting unless my family can, also. Otherwise, may as well use my ashes for fertilizer, etc.

                              As has been noted, there are a LOT of rules and regs about processing and disposing of a body. Some are good, i.e. limiting ground water contamination (folks start "family cemeteries" all the time, sometimes in silly locations, e.g. "... in the bend of that creek where grandpa fished...."), but IMHO most are to profit the folks who run the "industries".

                              Tommy
                              Tommy

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