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  • snakehunter
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 773

    #1

    Value of Mod 1895 Winchester

    It's a Saddle Ring carbine in caliber 30-06. Bore is in good condition. wood has been refinished. saddle ring and upper hand guard have been replaced with new components and it has been re-blued to a glossy finish Anybody have an idea what it is worth?
  • Sunray
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3251

    #2
    "...wood has been refinished...has been re-blued..." That drops the value by approximately half. Even if it was done professionally. Condition and originality matters.
    However, there was one on Rock Island auction that sold for $1840 in December of 2017. Another currently on Gunbroker that the guy wants a minimum bid of $1,299.00, with no bids.
    Spelling and grammar count!

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    • snakehunter
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 773

      #3
      Originally posted by Sunray
      "...wood has been refinished...has been re-blued..." That drops the value by approximately half. Even if it was done professionally. Condition and originality matters.
      However, there was one on Rock Island auction that sold for $1840 in December of 2017. Another currently on Gunbroker that the guy wants a minimum bid of $1,299.00, with no bids.
      Thanks Sunray. Your info helps me establish a ballpark figure within which to work.

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      • Tuna
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2686

        #4
        The 1895 has a big problem with high powered cartridges like the 30-06, 30-40 Krag and the 7.62x54. It has a tendency to stretch the action with these rounds and the headspace increases. So be sure to have it checked. It has no collector value. It should sell as a shooter.

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        • snakehunter
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 773

          #5
          Originally posted by Tuna
          The 1895 has a big problem with high powered cartridges like the 30-06, 30-40 Krag and the 7.62x54. It has a tendency to stretch the action with these rounds and the headspace increases. So be sure to have it checked. It has no collector value. It should sell as a shooter.
          Thanks Tuna. That makes sense. It's nickel steel

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #6
            Originally posted by snakehunter
            It's nickel steel
            Doesn't matter--it's the breech lock-up, at the rear end of the bolt, that causes the stretching. With all that's been done to it, maybe $5-600?
            Last edited by clintonhater; 03-09-2019, 07:11.

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            • Vern Humphrey
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 15875

              #7
              I always lusted for two rifles -- An 1895 Winchester in .30-06 and a 99 Savage in .250-3000. My Dad was in oil exploration and spent years in the African bush. The .250-3000 was his favorite cartridge. But the more I learned the less I wanted them. Nowadays I have a 99 Savage in .308 Winchester -- the best of both worlds.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10580

                #8
                My Dad had a Winchester 1895 in 30-40 Krag. I believe the barrel is stamped 30 US. We still have it. It's a carbine version and supposedly went through one of our many wars with Mexico. I guess the serial number lookup might verify some of the history. It has 25 1/4" notches cut on the butt stock real neatly side by side as to confirm 25 kills but of course no one can verify that now. It was my Dad's favorite rifle and it still shoots good to this day.

                There sure is a world of difference between a 1894 and a 1895.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  I always lusted for two rifles -- An 1895 Winchester in .30-06 and a 99 Savage in .250-3000.
                  The 99 makes a lot of sense, but not the first--unless you like vicious kickers. The '95s in .30-40 (I have one) are much more pleasant.

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #10
                    Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10580

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dryheat
                      Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.
                      Yes. He used 2, both chambered for the .405 cartridge.

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                      Last edited by Allen; 03-09-2019, 08:10.

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                      • dryheat
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10587

                        #12
                        That is a piece of history. They pretty much covered it all, what with the Russian, .303,ect. A buddy of mine just picked one up, and I know he didn't buy a Bubba. Funny, how folks didn't think far enough ahead to not mess with historic rifles and such. Well, maybe it helps the collectors find the(rare) virgin stuff which is fun to pick up and more valuable.
                        If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                        • Griff Murphey
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 3708

                          #13
                          i have a 1914 06 saddle ring, the ring is long lost and the threads are wallowed out and gone, gone. One of the elevation screws is missing on the rear sight and the remaining one is tightened all the way down... And it's on, really on, at 100 yards. Yes there is a little receiver stretch primer pooch, I typically load 2 grains under minimum. Great guns, mine has a Texas Ranger star carved into the butt stock, as these were the preferred long arm of the Texas Rangers in the early 20th century, it's possible it is a gun once owned by a ranger. Bore purty good, it'll group at 2 1/2" at 100. Have the modern Browning reiteration, both lovely sweet handling guns.
                          Last edited by Griff Murphey; 03-17-2019, 06:49.

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                          • snakehunter
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 773

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Griff Murphey
                            i have a 1914 06 saddle ring, the ring is long lost and the threads are wallowed out and gone, gone. One of the elevation screws is missing on the rear sight and the remaining one is tightened all the way down... And it's on, really on, at 100 yards. Yes there is a little receiver stretch primer pooch, I typically load 2 grains under minimum. Great guns, mine has a Texas Ranger star carved into the butt stock, as these were the preferred long arm of the Texas Rangers in the early 20th century, it's possible it is a gun once owned by a ranger. Bore purty good, it'll group at 2 1/2" at 100. Have the modern Browning reiteration, both lovely sweet handling guns.
                            Sounds nice. My '95 shoots about like your rifle (2.5-3 in @ 100 )with full load 180s. It was my black bear gun for many years but now it's retired.

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                            • Art
                              Senior Member, Deceased
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9256

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dryheat
                              Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.
                              In addition to the .405s mentioned above, Roosevelt carried a Model 95 Carbine in .30-40 in the Spanish American War and provided them to his officers. The Model 95 was one of his favorite rifles.
                              Last edited by Art; 03-18-2019, 03:09.

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