New New Zealand Gun Law

[Bill D]

I do understand the victim’s families viewpoint. I understand it but I don’t agree with it. As a liberal who is also a firearms owner/user, you must straddle a fine line. You have to be completely in agreement with the liberal point of view (thinking with your heart) while hating to see your rights trampled on by misdirected grief. The conservative side of it is (thinking with your head) exactly what Sam said. It was the individual that was evil. The firearm was just one of many available tools to accomplish the deed. Why is it wrong to mobilize in response to a knee jerk reaction?

JMO

[blackhawknj]

If 50 or 100 new Zeelanders had died in a bus crash or a boat sinking.......?

[Bill D]

Simple!
Round up all buses or boats and destroy them.

JMO

[Griff Murphey]

In the past they had been licensing M-1 Garands as regular sporting rifles if the bayonet lug was cut off and if the shooter never used an 8 round en bloc. Obviously that part was on the honor system. There may be a chance some "bona fide collectors" may bee able to save a few of the historic guns but that may be a faint hope. If so they would be under the same regs as their highest regulated guns; the full autos (which I have not heard what they are doing about those) which are allowed to be owned, live, but may not be shot. An M-1 that still had the bayonet lug was the next license level up. The Carbines are definitely toast.

I also understand the shooters are experiencing new random police presence at the ranges. It's definitely a judgmental decision to cast the 250,000 NZ legal gun owners as villains when in fact they are victims of the crime themselves. Maybe the loss of a hobby is not comparable with the loss of human life but I still call the gun owners victims.

They are still shooting their bolt actions in matches.

[barretcreek]

The Kiwis understand these a-holes want publicity and refuse to give it to them. Their faces are obscured, names unmentioned and the press isn't running a contest to rank their body count. That would go a long way to putting a damper on these guys here. LSM has made ARs the 'must have' weapon for mass murder.

[Johnny P]

Uncle Bernie, Occasionally-Coherent, and Omar the Ugly would never try to do something like that to us U.S. gun owners, would they.

[PeteDavis]

Here's the law:

http://legislation.govt.nz/bill/gove...est/whole.html

PD

[Dan Shapiro]

Hmmmm...............there was a 'letter to the editor' posted in a NZ paper, allegedly from a gang member. It stated that they would not be turning in their guns.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45483/new-zealand-gang-we-wont-give-our-guns-government-james-barrett

[S.A. Boggs]

Hmmmm...............there was a 'letter to the editor' posted in a NZ paper, allegedly from a gang member. It stated that they would not be turning in their guns.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45483...-james-barrett

They have a point of contention.
Sam

[Griff Murphey]

My NZ friend said today that there is speculation that competitors and “bona fide collectors” may be able to keep some otherwise to-be-illegal guns. But at this point it is mere speculation.

[togor]

My NZ friend said today that there is speculation that competitors and “bona fide collectors” may be able to keep some otherwise to-be-illegal guns. But at this point it is mere speculation.

I hope you're right. There should be a collector provision. Hoops to jump through but better than the furnace.

[blackhawknj]

They need their own Lexington and Concord.

[Tuna]

My friend in NZ has said he cannot even sell over seas any parts for carbines. He has a real nice early Inland high wood I cut stock and he has to turn it in. The mail service there will not ship any parts for firearms. So he will loose a stock worth $300 to $500. He doesn't understand that there is a world wide liberal agenda to remove all firearms from everyone and the liberals are in power down there right now. They don't have a 2nd amendment to help protect them.

[Griff Murphey]

My friend in NZ has said he cannot even sell over seas any parts for carbines. He has a real nice early Inland high wood I cut stock and he has to turn it in. The mail service there will not ship any parts for firearms. So he will loose a stock worth $300 to $500. He doesn't understand that there is a world wide liberal agenda to remove all firearms from everyone and the liberals are in power down there right now. They don't have a 2nd amendment to help protect them.

My NZ internet buddy just took all the firing pins out of his M-1 collection. Not surprisingly it made him sad knowing they will never be fired. He's hoping they can be retained as non firing collectibles.

[Allen]

Democrats DO NOT deserve to live in a country that has the right to bear arms.