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  • Dan Shapiro
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 5864

    #1

    So an older guy gets beat on...........

    By two young thugs. Everyone in the McDonald' restaurant just look on..........guess in Chicago thats what passes for dinner entertainment.
    Suddenly the older guy pulls a gun.................now everyone starts screaming. No wonder that city is a s...hole.

    "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain
  • blackhawknj
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3754

    #2
    No doubt he's Public Enemy No. 1 in Chicago, the object of an intensive manhunt, etc..

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    • retread12345
      Member
      • Aug 2017
      • 96

      #3
      ' IF it only . saves one life " Yeah, your own !

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      • blackhawknj
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3754

        #4
        In the original Death Wish, Paul Kersey was "exiled" to Chicago. Perhaps he's come out of retirement.

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        • JB White
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 13371

          #5
          The "older man/armed citizen" was the private security guard hired by the restaraunt. The thugs had been inside harassing the patrons when the security guard intervened.

          The crowd reaction is typical of today's candyassed loudmouths who have been raised to dial 9-1-1, get it all on tattle tale video, and have never known how to throw punches in self defense.
          That's why the ghetto apes come into the shopping/tourist area. The odds of getting away with their kind of fun are well in their favor.
          If the "older man" with old school values hadn't been there to stop it, we wouldn't have seen that video. They were in cower mode like sheep to slaughter until SOMEONE ELSE stood up.

          What you saw was only the tail end of an otherwise common occurrence in Chicago. Notice how the thugs simply walked away as if there wasn't a problem?
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          **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            The video is amazing. How that guard (off duty suburban cop) managed to not pull the trigger is beyond me.

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            • JB White
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 13371

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              The video is amazing. How that guard (off duty suburban cop) managed to not pull the trigger is beyond me.
              When the news and video first broke those were my thoughts exactly. I had to admire him for his ability hand to hand and his self control when the use of a weapon was warranted to regain control.
              I had nearly forgotten about it since it wasn't an unusual incident. (That's why he was there in the first place) What I wasn't aware of was the fact he was indeed an off duty LEO. I suspected it due to his professionalism, but the local news source didn't disclose that.
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              **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #8
                If you don't have a concealed carry license, GET one. If you have a license and don't carry all the time, START.

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                • tmark
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1900

                  #9
                  Is it not easy for a common citizen to get a C and C license unless he has good reason to like carrying large sums of money? I don't think one would be issued to a common citizen!

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Lots of states are "shall issue" now. But... pack insurance too.
                    Last edited by togor; 04-11-2019, 07:34.

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      The video is amazing. How that guard (off duty suburban cop) managed to not pull the trigger is beyond me.
                      1 for togor. I thought the exact same thing. But, young people can be accused of being idiots(been there). The environment of crime doesn't deserve any sympathy. It's universal; do the crime, do the time or the equivalent. If a robber gets shot; put in a little investigative time.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • RED
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11689

                        #12
                        If you watch the video it is not hard to discern the older guy (not old, just older) was wearing a vest, a duty belt and holstered pistol. In Chicago that outs him as a LEO or paid, armed guard. The creeps had to know that from the git go which makes what they did even worse. They were also probably aware that a LEO couldn't shoot them with their backs turned so they just walked away to play another day.
                        Last edited by RED; 04-12-2019, 05:44.

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                        • JB White
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13371

                          #13
                          Makes me wonder if they were also aware his power of arrest might be limited to the property line. If he had that power at all.
                          2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                          **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JB White
                            Makes me wonder if they were also aware his power of arrest might be limited to the property line. If he had that power at all.
                            Everyone has the power to make a citizen's arrest. If you, as a civilian, violate a traffic regulation on a military base, for example, the Military Police will make a citizen's arrest.

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                            • S.A. Boggs
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 8568

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              Everyone has the power to make a citizen's arrest. If you, as a civilian, violate a traffic regulation on a military base, for example, the Military Police will make a citizen's arrest.
                              So will Togor! "Citizens Arrest, Citizens Arrest" thanks Vern for the funny reminder!
                              Sam

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