Coronavirus

[togor]

Ah, picked up another SA Booger on my shoe.

Try not to get Bogged down in them.

Covid-19 comment: headed to store to get replacement car battery this afternoon, surfed to Fox News on SiriusXM. Whoever the heads were talking, basically engaging a "blame China" exercise. Without a shred of discernable irony, the US network that aligns itself with the state authorities more than any other was tutting about how Authoritarian regimes make bad situations worse with their relentless control of information.

Of course they're trying to distract from the fact that our own government has impeded our ability to do a simple measurement: does someone has the disease or not?

My takeaway: don't watch or listen to Fox and you'll be better off.

[S.A. Boggs]

Try not to get Bogged down in them.

Covid-19 comment: headed to store to get replacement car battery this afternoon, surfed to Fox News on SiriusXM. Whoever the heads were talking, basically engaging a "blame China" exercise. Without a shred of discernable irony, the US network that aligns itself with the state authorities more than any other was tutting about how Authoritarian regimes make bad situations worse with their relentless control of information.

Of course they're trying to distract from the fact that our own government has impeded our ability to do a simple measurement: does someone has the disease or not?

My takeaway: don't watch or listen to Fox and you'll be better off.

Togey, "Shocked! Shocked I say!" I agree with you on Fox News, the truth will fry your children's brain. Better off taking in the Pablum of MSM rather then adult food.
Sam

[lyman]

My takeaway: don't watch or listen to any main stream media and you'll be better off.

FIFY


and surely you would have been happier on CNN or MSNBC???

[togor]

FIFY


and surely you would have been happier on CNN or MSNBC???

It's a fallacy to argue that distorted media on one side somehow cancels out the other.

Fox gets dinged because they use press freedom to slavishly parrot the government's line instead of challenging it, which is what I think the founders had in mind with the First Amendment.

[lyman]

it's a fallacy that you think that is what I meant, (the FIFY part)



Fox is MSM,, and got dinged during the past administration for not towing the line,

they all have an agenda,, each and every one of them,

and you seem to fall for it as long as it is OMB, (orange man bad)

[dryheat]

slavishly parrot the government's line instead of challenging it,-
What is FIFY? Fox is Fifty? We're supposed to know this stuff.

[dryheat]

L.A. County has declared a virus emergency and they say they are prepared. I don't find this reassuring as they can't take care of their homeless.-
Screw the homeless. This is the lastest and greatest news.
The virus is already getting to be old news. Kardashian butts will eclipse this shortly.

[S.A. Boggs]

CV19 will be replaced by the economy tanking {?} as the virus will be a repeat of news.
Sam

[Roadkingtrax]

Anyone got more of that Coronavirus Hoax?

Thoughts & Prayers

CPAC attendee tests positive for coronavirus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/cpac-attendee-tests-positive-coronavirus.amp

[togor]

it's a fallacy that you think that is what I meant, (the FIFY part)



Fox is MSM,, and got dinged during the past administration for not towing the line,

they all have an agenda,, each and every one of them,

and you seem to fall for it as long as it is OMB, (orange man bad)

Here you go,

Is this thing on our shores Trump's fault like some claim? I say no, it was going to get here somehow or another and eventually get loose.

Now can you tell me anything Trump has said or done so far with this outbreak that really sets him apart in a good way from how predecessors might have handled it? Seems to me Trump is just blundering through.

[rayg]

Here you go,

Is this thing on our shores Trump's fault like some claim? I say no, it was going to get here somehow or another and eventually get loose.

Now can you tell me anything Trump has said or done so far with this outbreak that really sets him apart in a good way from how predecessors might have handled it? Seems to me Trump is just blundering through.

[I] was amazed at the first part you said... "Trump's fault like some claim?" I say no, .....

Then the 2nd part was you.. "Seems to me Trump is just blundering through." Lol

[lyman]

slavishly parrot the government's line instead of challenging it,-
What is FIFY? Fox is Fifty? We're supposed to know this stuff.

Sir heat,


Fixed It For You,


FIFY

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compare the number of folks over the past 3 months that have had or passed from the corona virus to those that had and passed from the 'regular flu' and or pneumonia,

then compare those numbers to the other 'media sensationalized outbreaks' in the past dozen years,


what do you see?

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[I] was amazed at the first part you said... "Trump's fault like some claim?" I say no, .....

Then the 2nd part was you.. "Seems to me Trump is just blundering through." Lol

Orange
Man
Bad

[togor]

Orange
Man
Bad

Orange Man Good? Really?

Re: flu comparisons. This was a bad flu year and about 10% of the country got it, at about 0.1% mortality. So the flu will claim about one in 10K Americans this year, almost all of them old and sick or young.

COVID-19 appears to have a higher mortality than flu, but hard to know how much higher because the numbers on actual cases are spotty.

It is however a new disease so we don't know what % of the population it could infect. But if it hits 2X as many people with 2X mortality then over 100K deaths. On the plus side these people won't be alive in coming years to die of flu?

A lot of the clampdown IMO reflects a desire to keep it from wiping out the health care workforce. If those people get it, then there's a shortage of folks to care for the severe cases in the population while the doctors and nurses are out sick. If it gets into a nursing home and makes the staff sick too, then that's also a tricky problem. Already happened in WA, I think.

[rayg]

Makes sense....

[Art]

There are about seven billion seven hundred million people in the world. As of right now there are about 105,000 cases of corona virus 95,000 of whom are in China. In this country (pop about 330,000,000) there are im the neighborhood of 200 known cases with about a dozen deaths most of which are in Washington State and most of those who have unfortunately passed were residents in one nursing home. There is a pretty good chance that things will improve a lot when things warm up because this virus, like the common cold and the flu, likes it cold, or at least cool. China was slow off the mark, that's true, but once they got going they locked down a whole province (being a police state does have some advantages) and that has definitely slowed things down. In this country we were a bit slow in some areas too but President Trump was willing early on to be called a xenophobe and a racist to do the right thing which was to prohibit entry (mostly) from countries most affected and to quarantine ill or at risk resident aliens and United States Citizens when they got back, and if that meant detaining people on military bases and forcing cruise ships to make figure eights in the open ocean until they could get a handle on things he did that too.

To me this whole thing shows panic can truly be much worse than the problem and countries can actually act appropriately when there is a real threat to manage both the disease and the tendency of people to over react.