Did USN gun shields in WW-2 need instructions?

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  • Griff Murphey
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3708

    #1

    Did USN gun shields in WW-2 need instructions?

    Apparently they need them today...E0B885D8-EBF8-48D3-8230-336CACFECA95.jpgE0B885D8-EBF8-48D3-8230-336CACFECA95.jpg
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    "Do not stand in front of gun when it is operation"

    "Ages 17 and up"
    Last edited by togor; 02-25-2020, 02:48.

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    • barretcreek
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 6065

      #3
      USS California?

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      • Art
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Dec 2009
        • 9256

        #4
        don't know what the instructions on the gun shield are for since they are unreadable on my 'puter. My brother, when he was touring the Alabama took a picture of the back of a gun shield for a 20mm Oerlikon; stenciled on it was "LEAD DAMN IT LEAD." That qualifies as an instruction .

        I remember the claymore mines when I was in the Army, mid to late 60s, had "THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY" embossed on the front, I also saw some that had "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY." I like the first one better, some guys might have trouble telling which side is "front."

        Hey, never underestimate the ability of the ordinary soldier (or sailor) to mess up. I went through basic with some really bright guys and some.....not so much.
        Last edited by Art; 02-25-2020, 03:28.

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        • blackhawknj
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 3754

          #5
          They said in the WWII Navy, "You can make it fool proof but you can't make it sailor-proof."
          Claymore mines had quite a back blast area.
          Last edited by blackhawknj; 02-25-2020, 08:22.

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          • m1ashooter
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 3220

            #6
            I've been on USCG Cutters and they have instruction on the shields like this.
            To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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            • Major Tom
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 6181

              #7
              I remember training wth the 3 inch 'bazooka'. Instructor said there would be no recoil. Wrong, I got a black eye from the aiming device. Also the M40 grenade launcher.......target must be a least 10 yards away so that grenade could arm itself. In 'Nam, charlie always had fun turning the claymores around, front facing US!

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              • Griff Murphey
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 3708

                #8
                Originally posted by barretcreek
                uss california?
                uss gerald r. Ford cvn-76

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                • Merc
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1690

                  #9
                  Anyone caught up in a battle for their life might forget their own name. Panic often overcomes months of training. Many muskets found abandoned on Civil War battlefields had several unfired minie’ balls jammed into the barrel during a battle.
                  Last edited by Merc; 02-28-2020, 03:39.

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                  • jon_norstog
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3896

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackhawknj
                    They said in the WWII Navy, "You can make it fool proof but you can't make it sailor-proof."
                    Claymore mines had quite a back blast area.
                    That's for sure. Lock a Bosun Mate or a Deck Ape in a compartment with a solid steel sphere and within two hours he will heve broken it or lost it.


                    jn

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                    • Dolt
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 543

                      #11
                      We had a new second lieutenant showing us how to set up an ambush back in the "Bad Old Days". He set the claymore up backwards "Front toward friendlies". We lost faith in him after that.
                      Read, think, UNDERSTAND, comment

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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        The written instructions no doubt came about because of bad experiences in WWII.

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