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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #16
    Originally posted by togor
    Ray,

    Dictating that private industry change its supplier base is one of those things that could backfire.

    As for Trump himself,

    Yes, the Bud Holland of Presidents.

    You see it too, but don't want to admit it. The thrill of the show perhaps. I just see someone doing it wrong.
    How could moving the mfg of medical supplies to the US back fire...

    Pls explain how Trump compares to a pilot that that cashes his plane own plane to Trump

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      Let's be honest--no one thinks Trump is on top of this. They just don't want to see him swallowed up by circumstances. That's a paradoxical combination that will take some time to sort out.
      Ha, Ha, almost forgot to post a response to your above post let's be honest!

      Ha, Ha, my take on your post is, only you and the Dem's think Trump is not on top of this..
      Last edited by rayg; 03-13-2020, 04:38.

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Originally posted by rayg
        How could moving the mfg of medical supplies to the US back fire...

        Pls explain how Trump compares to a pilot that that cashes his plane own plane to Trump
        The motivation for onsourcing plants is to avoid disruption due to say an epidemic in the foreign country causing a supply interruption. Well what if the foreign plant is back in operation while we have epidemic problems here? It could be an inauspicious time to take on that particular chore, yes?

        Before that guy finally crashed his plane he was doing reckless stuff that caused other people to not want to fly with him. True he only crashed once, but that's not really the point is it. Some people you look at them and think: only a matter of time. You see it too I bet.

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        Originally posted by rayg
        Ha, Ha, almost forgot to post a response to your above post let's be honest!

        Ha, Ha, my take on your post is, only you and the Dem's think Trump is not on top of this..
        Ray you only think he's on top of it because he's underreacting to circumstances.
        Last edited by togor; 03-13-2020, 04:40.

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #19
          Quote Togor.. "The motivation for onsourcing plants is to avoid disruption due to say an epidemic in the foreign country causing a supply interruption. Well what if the foreign plant is back in operation while we have epidemic problems here? It could be an inauspicious time to take on that particular chore, yes?"

          Oh my God...another "the sky is falling" by Togor.. The old what if..Lol
          Last edited by rayg; 03-13-2020, 04:51.

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          • togor
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            • Nov 2009
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            #20
            Ray the devil is in the details. You've been an emergency management planner, IIRC. You know this. You also know that some of the stuff that comes from the politicians can cause eyeballs to roll in the heads of people who actually have to implement things. You have this work experience that understands the value of practicality and yet you think this guy is the man. I don't see it.

            Also: I'm not blasting the forthcoming executive order. I'm just not bowled over by it site unseen like you. Which one of us is being more level-headed here?
            Last edited by togor; 03-13-2020, 04:55.

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            • togor
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              • Nov 2009
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              #21
              Originally posted by rayg
              Quote Togor.. "The motivation for onsourcing plants is to avoid disruption due to say an epidemic in the foreign country causing a supply interruption. Well what if the foreign plant is back in operation while we have epidemic problems here? It could be an inauspicious time to take on that particular chore, yes?"

              Oh my God...another "the sky is falling" by Togor.. The old what if..Lol
              So Ray here is a "sky is falling" piece from Fox News, saying the Chinese are threatening to cut off supplies of drugs to the US.



              If this is true, then a puny executive order doesn't begin to cover it! Sometimes a half-measure is worse than doing nothing at all.

              I happen to agree with you that a world ruled by dictators will be one ruled by petty dictator quarrels that hurt ordinary people. So I would support onshoring of pharma. But if we're going to do that then let's do it right, which is to say get control of drug prices at the same time. We pay the highest prices in the world, by far, only to discover now that the industry offshored production anyways. If they stopped discovering new drugs we could live pretty long on the ones we have, so long as we can afford them.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #22
                [QUOTE=togor;576778]So Ray here is a "sky is falling" piece from Fox News, saying the Chinese are threatening to cut off supplies of drugs to the US.

                Of course.. they see would happen to their economy if the US starts to mfg the drugs so they make threats..



                Togor Quote..If this is true, then a puny executive order doesn't begin to cover it! Sometimes a half-measure is worse than doing nothing at all.

                Not True, a half measure now is better doing nothing at all..

                Togor Quote...I happen to agree with you that a world ruled by dictators will be one ruled by petty dictator quarrels that hurt ordinary people.

                I don't recall ever saying that, when did I say that.....

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                • togor
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                  • Nov 2009
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                  #23
                  Ray I think the sentiment is implicit in a general distaste for dictators. Didn't think you needed to be on the record for it but feel free.

                  Re: half measures. They can make things worse. Sometimes half a lane change is a terrible idea. For example.

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                  • rayg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7444

                    #24
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Ray I think the sentiment is implicit in a general distaste for dictators. Didn't think you needed to be on the record for it but feel free.

                    Re: half measures. They can make things worse. Sometimes half a lane change is a terrible idea. For example.
                    Not always.. half a glass of beer is not as bad as no beer..Lol

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