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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #31
    Originally posted by Cosine26
    CO of Theodore Roosevelt
    Let me present the Theodore Roosevelt situation in a more succinct manner. The CO of the TR transmitted, intentionally, unintentionally or carelessly, Information through non secure communications (it was leaked to the press) information that indicated that there was a problem on one of the main weapons system of the Pacific Feet. There was the distinct possibility/probability that the problem was so serious that it may and could have escalated to the point that a major element of the USN in addition to the Pacific Fleet was ineffective. A nuclear powered air craft carrier is one of the most complex weapons system, in a very compact complex package. Confinement of personnel (while not as compact as the WWII cruisers on which I served) makes separation not an option.
    It has not been released which crew members were disabled, but there are few unimportant positions on a nuclear carrier.
    Had ADMR Halsley (in the clear) transmitted that his fleet had been severely damaged by typhoons in the Pacific in WWII, the Japanese Navy could have taken advantage of the situation and prolonged the Pacific War.
    Maintaining secrecy in these tumultuous time id of prime importance.
    IMHO
    FWIW
    That is why they took Obama's Blackberry away from him. But that battle has been lost.
    When push comes to shove,you do what you think you have to do. Not necessarily the right thing every time. A little panic not held down can result in bad decisions. The spastic reach for the cell phone is natural nowadays. There is a remedy for that. Did they not cover that at NAVAIRSCHL? I hope the former captain recovers from his cough.
    Last edited by dryheat; 04-09-2020, 03:25.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #32
      A few weeks ago I had hypothesized, to make a point, that better pandemic defense might be worth a couple of CVNs in terms of their contribution to national security. It was assumed by some, erroneously, that I was proposing some kind of swap. I wasn't. But this business with the TR illustrates that a pandemic can take ships out of the fleet. Which reinforces my original point, which is that if we're spending big money to protect the nation, some of that money should go to bio-defense in the future, because without it, the other weapons systems may be taken offline, and the country will be unprotected. Put another way, bio-defense is right up there with the Navy as the first line now.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11268

        #33
        Originally posted by togor
        A few weeks ago I had hypothesized, to make a point, that better pandemic defense might be worth a couple of CVNs in terms of their contribution to national security. It was assumed by some, erroneously, that I was proposing some kind of swap. I wasn't. But this business with the TR illustrates that a pandemic can take ships out of the fleet. Which reinforces my original point, which is that if we're spending big money to protect the nation, some of that money should go to bio-defense in the future, because without it, the other weapons systems may be taken offline, and the country will be unprotected. Put another way, bio-defense is right up there with the Navy as the first line now.
        link?

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #34
          Originally posted by lyman
          link?
          Sure, go ahead. But the point, that pandemic defense is moving up fast as a national priority, seems obvious enough regardless.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #35
            you said you mentioned,,,, so please show us a link to prove your greatness

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #36
              Originally posted by lyman
              you said you mentioned,,,, so please show us a link to prove your greatness
              http://www.jouster2.com/forums/showt...Dems-win-again

              Posts 23 and 25.

              Added: I see you use the Royal "Us" now. The only one who had an issue was you. Then and now.
              Last edited by togor; 04-10-2020, 08:18.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #37
                Originally posted by togor
                http://www.jouster2.com/forums/showt...Dems-win-again

                Posts 23 and 25.

                Added: I see you use the Royal "Us" now. The only one who had an issue was you. Then and now.
                just cause I am the one that asked, doesn't mean others did not want to know,

                getting defensive again,

                - - - Updated - - -

                thanks for the link,


                didja ever ask your kid about the question asked at the end of the thread?

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #38
                  Yes I did ask your question. Answer is: don't know. My kid is a resident, just getting started. The how's and whys of hospital placement above pay grade. At this point just about working somewhere (for a social worker's salary) that affords the kind of training a doctor seeks to advance their career.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #39
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Yes I did ask your question. Answer is: don't know. My kid is a resident, just getting started. The how's and whys of hospital placement above pay grade. At this point just about working somewhere (for a social worker's salary) that affords the kind of training a doctor seeks to advance their career.
                    no, you did not (you did not post after I posted what to discuss)

                    , but since your kid is a resident, he , like you said, likely has no access to the bureaucratic part of the planning process,


                    I did read elsewhere, and IIRC, Tsimonetti mentioned it as well in a post, that in NY, the state regulates how many and where Hospitals can be built,


                    betting after this pandemic is all said and done, that process may be revisited and changed a bit

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #40
                      Yes I asked your question, but did not post a reply until your follow-up above. I gave you the reply now, and if you want to ding me for tardiness go ahead. Hopefully won't affect my final grade (probably getting a F in jouster2.com anyways)

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #41
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Yes I asked your question, but did not post a reply until your follow-up above. I gave you the reply now, and if you want to ding me for tardiness go ahead. Hopefully won't affect my final grade (probably getting a F in jouster2.com anyways)
                        tissues,, aisle 6,

                        be sure to dot you eyes, not rub them

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #42
                          Feel free to contribute to a thread, mod.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #43
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Feel free to contribute to a thread, mod.
                            last word,,

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