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And the dummy didn't listen....29 Jan warned 500,000 would die....23 Feb warned 2million Americans would die....His first brief was 3 Jan, and he didn't care....Now he makes a fool out of himself every night at 5.....
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and yet this morning Fauci and his trusty sidekick were saying we (the nation) would likely come in well below any numbers previously given,
maybe you should turn off the TV, go outside, and breath in some fresh air??
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Navarro guessing correctly falls under the category of "blind squirrel finding acorn" IMO.
Everyone agrees that the "nobody saw this coming" line doesn't wash. Old news, really. Just gotta play the cards we have as best we can for now, crappy though they may be.Comment
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The Social Scientist?"The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. UllmanComment
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The biggest reasons no body, or not enough people saw this pandemic coming, or at least didn't get the magnitude is simple. The ChiComs lied about it for months, the other and bigger reason is the World Health Organization perpetuated the ChiCom lie and that's a documented fact that there's no denying. it's also why it isn't just a mess here but a much bigger mess in Europe where people fell for both lies hook line and sinker.
Hey, the left is always telling us how much smarter the Euros are than us and how much better their medicine is, well look at them now.
I would also remind those who have forgotten that when Pres. Trump cut off travel from China over two months ago both Biden and Sanders screamed RACISM as loud as they could, they've changed their tune now. It wouldn't surprise me if Biden forgot he ever said that....sheesh.Last edited by Art; 04-07-2020, 08:14.Comment
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Now the ChComs are saying 0 deaths!!! This illness not need to turn into a mental health syndrome unless one is willing to accept it. America got thru 7 Dec and 9/11 as a nation and we will do it again. The nervous Nellies will continue to have "someone" save them, do their thinking for them and relies on some type of government. Government is a human made institution to serve the nation, not the other way around.
If there is any blame then it is the person in the mirror and not anyone else. "We" elect people to lead the Republic, not to take advantage of every situation for the sake of their political party as Pelosi did with the last money bill.
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Comical how Trump brings out the childishness in his detractors.Comment
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Art:
The claims of "racism" out of Biden are somewhat overstated. Calling Trump xenophobic, which Biden did do, is not really an insult, in the sense that distrust of foreigners is one of the things many people like about him.
I wouldn't go woofing too much yet about the triumph of American medicine over it's European counterparts, as it's still the first quarter. Also fair to point out that public health in a pandemic is an emergency situation which is somewhat different from normal health care delivery. We could also point out that if Americans pay ~2X for the health care they get versus the Euros, with life expectancy metrics that are not better, then we really ought to see a payoff somewhere. Will we see 2X better performance in this one? I doubt it, but again, first quarter.Comment
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People are still coming in around the cracks in the China travel ban, 40,000 since it was put in place, and are not exactly being met with an organized plan when they get here. So victory laps on the China travel ban, especially given our US Covid caseload, seem ill placed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/u...gtype=HomepageComment
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Just read an interview with the head of the CDC. He said deaths will come in far below what the models predicted because Americans are following the guidelines better then the models predicted. The models assumed that 50% of our nation wouldn't follow them.To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC PolicyComment
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Funny as even the Iranians KNOW the Chinese lied to them and the whole world. When the people say in texts and such that 80% of the people in Iran know they have done nothing but lie from the start. Of course the clerics are trying to get them to shut up as they don't want to offend the Chinks as they buy the Iranian oil when no one else will.Comment
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I'll put a few excerpts here in an attempt to answer your questions, without reposting the whole article. Will also try to capture the editorial slant accurately, for whatever it is.
"Flights continued this past week, the data show, with passengers traveling from Beijing to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, under rules that exempt Americans and some others from the clampdown that took effect on Feb. 2. In all, 279 flights from China have arrived in the United States since then, and screening procedures have been uneven, interviews show."
So 40K through the exemptions in the order.
"But the analysis of the flight and other data by The New York Times shows the travel measures, however effective, may have come too late to have “kept China out,” particularly in light of recent statements from health officials that as many as 25 percent of people infected with the virus may never show symptoms. Many infectious-disease experts suspect that the virus had been spreading undetected for weeks after the first American case was confirmed, in Washington State, on Jan. 20, and that it had continued to be introduced. In fact, no one knows when the virus first arrived in the United States.
During the first half of January, when Chinese officials were underplaying the severity of the outbreak, no travelers from China were screened for potential exposure to the virus. Health screening began in mid-January, but only for a number of travelers who had been in Wuhan and only at the airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York. By that time, about 4,000 people had already entered the United States directly from Wuhan, according to VariFlight, an aviation data company based in China. The measures were expanded to all passengers from China two weeks later."
A lot of the damage done in January, before the ban, when the Chinese were downplaying the outbreak.
"In interviews, multiple travelers who arrived after the screening was expanded said they received only passing scrutiny, with minimal follow-up.
“I was surprised at how lax the whole process was,” said Andrew Wu, 31, who landed at Los Angeles International Airport on a flight from Beijing on March 10. “The guy I spoke to read down a list of questions, and he didn’t seem interested in checking out anything.”
“Besides looking at our passports, they didn’t question us like we normally are questioned,” said Ms. Fitch, who had been teaching English in China. “So it was kind of weird, because everyone expected the opposite, where you get a lot of questions. But once we filled out the little health form, no one really cared.”
Inconsistent CPB policies, which has unfortunately been a recurring theme. Even in February, full airplanes from Europe had passengers stacked in crowded halls with long lines (including in Texas, as I recall).
“We cannot stop all introductions,” the C.D.C. added, noting that the coronavirus pandemic was “especially challenging due to asymptomatic and presymptomatic infections and an incubation period of up to two weeks.”
Separately, on Friday, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that the administration’s measures were “unprecedented” and allowed “the U.S. to stay ahead of the outbreak as it developed.”
Some *ss-covering quotes from Federal bureaucrats which are not all that convincing.
Anyways, that's the gist of it. Not an obvious Trump bash, just explaining the policy, the exceptions, the timing of it, with respect to developments in China, and some traveler experiences. Seems clear to me that it was put in place too late, that we were just going to get wet no matter what. A better policy, sooner, might have helped, but then again, once it got here, mistakes statesite (eg NYC) allowed it to bloom.
I guess the question for people is whether or not they're awarding points for effort or points for success. I suppose effort, or lack of it, is all that can be measured right now.Comment
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