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  • blackhawk2
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 471

    #1

    Is the dummy for real

    The heel spur hero has called for testing injections of UV rays and Disinfectants to kill Coronavirus....He is just digging his grave deeper....
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Forging his chain.

    “I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it. Is its pattern strange to you?” C. Dickens.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • Art
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Dec 2009
      • 9256

      #3
      I'd like a cite on that.

      I did see in the press conference today information, not surprising, that summer is almost surely going to be real bad for the corona virus. Research was presented today at the daily pandemic presser (yes real scientific research) that hot humid weather is real bad for the corona virus. Not a surprise since it is a relative of the common cold virus and cold and flu virus tend to die out in hot weather which is why we have a cold and flu season and that season is fall and winter. The scientist being interviewed also said that UV light is real bad for this virus in conjunction with the above mentioned hot humid weather....

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        It has been hot in some parts of the world for some time now. Yet the virus continues to give trouble.

        It has been described as an indoor disease. In those places where it's person to person contact, indoors, in air conditioning, the season may make little difference. For example, in any factory or food plant.

        As for Trump, the attitude is that if he finally hits on a miracle treatment, no one will care how many duds he hawked first. "Always Be Selling".

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        • Art
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Dec 2009
          • 9256

          #5
          The fact is right now the corona virus is retreating. Spain, one of the hottest hot spots has seen a 10,000 bed decline in cases. Italy is talking about opening up Lombardy which is its hottest hot spot. New York Metro is seeing a real drop in cases and fatalities and those trends seem to be the rule rather than the exception. The hottest parts of the world, by and large have the fewest cases. I will admit that most of the countries in the hottest areas temperature wise have very poor reporting so its a bit hard to tell. I do find it a bit incredible that India only has had 721 deaths and Myanmar only 5 but reporting there is not what it is in the Netherlands. then there are places like Iran and China along with (probably) Russia who are flat out lying.

          We're barely a month into Spring. Lets see what happens over the next few months. The real problem is how prepared and what we'll have learned if this pops back up in November or December...what will we have learned?

          If you're really interested in numbers, you can check daily on this stuff on Real Clear Politics which has a count on every country in the world and the NY times which graphs deaths and new cases in every state updated every day.
          Last edited by Art; 04-23-2020, 06:55.

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #6
            Originally posted by Art
            The real problem is how prepared and what we'll have learned if this pops back up in November or December...what will we have learned?
            What I doubt we will have learned is the risk of depending upon foreign sources for crucial emergency supplies--such as masks & the critical chemical needed to make the virus test, & hundreds of other necessities. But it's irrational to blame those "foreign sources" for accepting orders from greedy US manufacturers looking all over the world for the lowest costs; it isn't the Chinks who have let us down (though they are our mortal enemies), it's our own domestic industries.

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            • dryheat
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 10587

              #7
              -it isn't the Chinks who have let us down (though they are our mortal enemies), it's our own domestic industries.- So, you can't trust anybody. Not your own domestic industries or even your mortal enemies. Saints preserve us.
              -The heel spur hero has called for testing injections of UV rays and Disinfectants to kill Coronavirus.- Uh,huh. That might be something you saw in Sci-fi in 1952. Injections of UV rays. Wow, just wow.
              “I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it. Is its pattern strange to you?” C. Dickens.
              I can't deride Dickens but I don't think Trump recommended injecting UV rays. Trump is guilty of saying some goofy stuff. At this point, I wonder about some of these numbers. Hey, you want a crazy theory? You know you do. -there might be various versions of the virus(I'm going to write that down). The Asian part(la,CA) is a little weaker. The European version(NY) is way stronger. Here's a tip: Winter is coming.
              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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              • S.A. Boggs
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 8569

                #8
                We are all at fault on this virus, not just any leaders. Americans have basically become a lazy, demanding child over the last 70 years forgetting the lessons of the past. Looking for the cheapest of anything, it's the other's fault, not me, and so on. Now some have paid for this attitude with their life other's with their fortune. More ill wind is to come our way unless we change our nation's ways and that starts with us.
                What are you going to do to make the situation better or just pass the buck as usual?
                Sam

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                • shadycon
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 371

                  #9
                  If UV rays kill this virus, will UV lights placed in work areas help eliminate the spread of the virus?
                  M1a1's-R-FUN!!!!!!!

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Boggs I read your post as a critique of those who would wish this virus and the restrictions away, because they are not easy burdens to bear. If that's your angle then I agree with you. If you had something else in mind then I don't follow you.

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                    • oscars
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 551

                      #11
                      Years ago, UV light was used to disinfect public restrooms.

                      - - - Updated - - -

                      The count on time usage during the five o’clock follies shows that Trump appears 65% of the time, Birx 10% and Fauci 5%.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11270

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        It has been hot in some parts of the world for some time now. Yet the virus continues to give trouble.

                        It has been described as an indoor disease. In those places where it's person to person contact, indoors, in air conditioning, the season may make little difference. For example, in any factory or food plant.

                        As for Trump, the attitude is that if he finally hits on a miracle treatment, no one will care how many duds he hawked first. "Always Be Selling".


                        you know that is also the attitude for medical testing, R&D etc etc,

                        and has been since Man has been around,


                        so basically, we Humans have always been selling,

                        - - - Updated - - -

                        Originally posted by oscars
                        Years ago, UV light was used to disinfect public restrooms.

                        - - - Updated - - -

                        The count on time usage during the five o’clock follies shows that Trump appears 65% of the time, Birx 10% and Fauci 5%.
                        know a guy that works as an EMT/Firefigher in a local county,

                        he told me the new Ambulances have UV lights in them,


                        after a call, if a patient is picked up, they spray out the Ambulance, the close up the doors and flick a switch,
                        UV lights in the body burn out any bacteria or virus present,

                        he said they have done swab tests to verify and nothing survives

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Sure folk medicine and herbal cures and bottles of whatever passed off as miracle cures. Then we decided as a country to cut the crap and scientifically evaluate things. Contrast Trump's pitch on hydoxychloroquine ("what have you got to lose?") to any serious medical professional (so excluding Drs Phil, Oz, and Giuliani). Like night and day. Trump is a salesman. His product has been the Trump mystique. Then a stock market bubble. Now it's whatever quick-fix treatment is trending on the internet. Whether a product is good for the long run or not is irrelevant. All that matters is that it's a hot idea now. It's a genuine wonder he isn't hawking a mix of CBD oil, vitamin E, and Finesteride for Covid. After all, what have you got to lose? And who knows, you sleep better and have some hair regrow.

                          Meanwhile we have the makers of Lysol putting out a press release stating "um, please don't inject this anybody". Why would they feel the need to do that? People talk about the other guy having cognitive issues?

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8569

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Boggs I read your post as a critique of those who would wish this virus and the restrictions away, because they are not easy burdens to bear. If that's your angle then I agree with you. If you had something else in mind then I don't follow you.
                            To wish anything away is a fool's errand! As an individual I do not have to do business with a nation that has hurt my country/people and has the desire to place my country under their thumb. I am just one small person and I can write letter's to CEO's all day asking them to go elsewhere to buy. I am not naïve in that they will listen to me. They will listen if the stuff is not sold as the bottom dollar is what they look at. Can I make a difference?...maybe. I can vote for those who will listen to me and if enough of us do this then the corporations will start to listen as well.
                            If not then I will continue to prepare my family for what will happen as best as we can. What we had is gone, what is ahead is an uncertain one at best.
                            Sam

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                            • gwp
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1088

                              #15
                              Originally posted by shadycon
                              If UV rays kill this virus, will UV lights placed in work areas help eliminate the spread of the virus?
                              The The harmful effects of UV light are well documented. If UV lights were used when people were present, they would need protective equipment like UV resistant glasses (sunglasses) and UV resistant clothing to minimize the contact of the rays to the body. This technology is used in some outdoor sporting clothing.

                              Using UV in an empty area could be effective.

                              Depending on the amount and form of the radiation, as well as on the skin type of the individual exposed, ultraviolet radiation causes erythema, sunburn, photodamage (photoaging), photocarcinogenesis, damage to the eyes, alteration of the immune system of the skin, and chemical hypersensitivity. Skin cancers most commonly produced by ultraviolet radiation are basal and squamous cell carcinomas.

                              Ozone generators could also be used, but high concentrations of Ozone is dangerous to humans and other living things. Ozone drops the extra oxygen molecule to oxidize everything. It will damage the lungs quickly.

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