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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #16
    -Since the anthrax scare- I worked for the PO back then. We got sent out to clean up sidewalks if someone saw a little bird poop on it. The fire department(now first responders) would show up in full gear at first, but that got old fast. I love deja vu. I have made a note to write my senator. We got HEPA vacuum cleaners. I didn't know what HEPA was before anthrax. Refresh my memory.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • dryheat
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 10587

      #17
      Thank you for contacting me regarding your support for the United States Postal Service (USPS) and postal workers during the COVID-19 pandemic. I appreciate your thoughts on this important issue.

      Veterans, seniors, and people across Arizona rely on the USPS to deliver their mail quickly and reliably. The USPS is especially important for rural Arizonans to be able to receive mail and packages at an affordable rate. I have recognized the importance of USPS facilities during my time in Congress. During my time in the House of Representatives, I successfully fought to prevent the closure of the Cherrybell postal processing facility in Tucson. More recently, I have worked with members of Arizona’s House delegation to support the effort for a new post office in Prescott.

      As Americans practice social distancing to fight COVID-19, they still need to receive their mail and packages. The USPS and postal workers who still go to work during this pandemic are critical to ensure that individuals can continue to communicate and receive vital supplies. However, like so many businesses across the country, the USPS is experiencing substantially decreased revenue from a slowed economy, which leads to difficulty maintaining regular operations. As Congress debates the best way to help healthcare workers, businesses, local governments, and more in a future COVID-19 relief package, I will keep your support for USPS assistance funds in mind.

      As the 116th Congress addresses the many challenges facing our nation, I hope you will continue to share your thoughts and concerns. To keep up with my work in Congress, you can follow me on Twitter and Facebook, or visit my website at mcsally.senate.gov where you can sign up to receive my e-newsletter. Again, thank you for sharing your concerns. Please continue contacting my office regarding issues that you feel are important to you and Arizona.
      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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      • RED
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11689

        #18
        Back in the day... if you wanted to ship a small 2 0r 3 oz package, the USPS would take it. If you needed to ship something larger, you took it to the bus station and sent it via Greyhound... So along comes a new company that was trying to compete, the United Parcel Service. So in 1975, the postal service gave up on package delivery and the UPS and others took over.

        If you want to "save" the Post Office... you would also want to save phone booths and aluminum toothpaste tubes. You would have to make it illegal to post catalogs or to send text messages on the internet, or send bulk packages via any other medium.

        In order to stop getting billions of taxpayers money to keep an archaic system alive... increase the price of a 1st class stamp to $5.00 instead of $.50.

        It probably doesn't matter, the United States Post Office is as dead as is the printed newspaper...

        You can add brick and mortar stores to the eulogy.
        Last edited by RED; 04-30-2020, 08:13.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #19
          Originally posted by RED
          If you want to "save" the Post Office... you would also want to save phone booths and aluminum toothpaste tubes.
          I do! I love phone booths almost as much as I hate cell phones.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Anybody remember tinsel made with real lead foil?

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            • Former Cav
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 2241

              #21
              you haven't lived until you try to mail something from Belgium or Tokyo.
              and NO, I don't work for the Post Office!
              It costs astronomically more to mail stuff from overseas to here in the good old USA.
              I paid something like 4 dollars to mail a two page letter to my wife from Tokyo (was there on a business trip...which is "another story') and the paper was like tissue paper in terms of light weight and thin. You could barely write on it.and that was way back in 1980.
              In Belgium, we went to mail some clothes home to lighten the load. The biggest box you could mail was the size of a shoe box. They sold you the box in their P.O. you packed it, labeled it, and then they weighed it and it could not be more then 2 Kilograms. Cost was about 25 Euros which was 1.33 to a Euro back then in 2003.
              and wouldn't you know that ONLY ONE of my shoes made it back!!
              The US PO is much better in price and delivery!

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #22
                Originally posted by Former Cav
                you haven't lived until you try to mail something from Belgium or Tokyo.
                Cost to Canada is 2 or 3 times what the same package would cost here. Except that, now, the Chink flu hysteria has almost stopped trans-border shipments!

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                • rayg
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7444

                  #23
                  You know, I have to say this, and I said to another poster before..Who didn't like me saying it to him. But that the use of the word "chink" instead of Chinese, is a poor choice of words and I'm sure insults any viewers here who might be Chinese or family members who are..My Brother who was in the Korean war always used it when he came home as that was the normal talk by GI's then. I'm not a prude by any means, but now days the use of the word does not project well..and it reduces the quality of this forum...Okay I've said it again, now lets hear the defense of using the word. Ray
                  Last edited by rayg; 05-02-2020, 05:08.

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                  • Gun Smoke
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 1658

                    #24
                    Originally posted by rayg
                    You know, I have to say this, and I said to another poster before..Who didn't like me saying it to him. But that the use of the word "chink" instead of Chinese, is a poor choice of words and I'm sure insults any viewers here who might be Chinese or family members who are.. And I'm not a prude but it does not project well..and it reduces the quality of this forum and any poster that uses...Okay I've said it again, now lets hear the defense of the word. Ray
                    I assume this is directed mostly at me although this is the first I've read about it.

                    I call the muslims ragheads sometimes. They are the enemy of the world. I don't hold back.

                    Chink. Someone long before us came up with the name so the ill feelings go way back.

                    Now, who has caused more bloodshed in the world other than the Asian's? We fought with them--we fought against them in Vietnam and Korea. We fought them in WW2 as they tried to take over the world. During the early development of America so many Chinese came here that laws had to be created to stop them. Again trying to take over the world.

                    Now there's this virus that they tried desperately to hide, cover up, and lie about. They are still covering up everything they can but the rest of the world is not quite so dumb. They were so frantic about hiding and stuffing people in large buildings to die that they tore down one building (to build something larger) that was already being used as a hospital with people in it.

                    I'm not a supporter of other countries invading and killing Americans, especially when unprovoked. Me and apparently many others don't have kind words for these people.

                    Italians of the WW2 era were called wops.

                    Germans of the WW2 era are called Nazi's or Krout's (until it was discovered that this was a German word for cabbage).

                    We are at war with the Asians still through trade imbalance and military might (mostly courtesy of Bill Clinton). China is just the tip of the iceberg. No mention has been made of Japan and others that dominated trade long before the Chinese. While this is not entirely their fault there is a lot of politics and conniving present. Now this virus, which the Chinese are clearly responsible for, killing about a million people so far, that we know of.

                    Sorry. Though mostly done in humor, I don't have kind words for these people. We could call them much worse but this is a public forum and they don't need to be taking this in stride either. They get enough brainwashing already from the democrat's media who praises China and WHO for all they've "done".
                    Last edited by Gun Smoke; 05-02-2020, 05:44.

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                    • rayg
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7444

                      #25
                      Fine but what about the American people of who are Chinese or Asian decent and who some may even be on this forum....Are they the enemy of the US..Anyway, you're a big boy and you certainly can say any thing you want, I only gave you my opinion..I just I feel it degrades the quality of this forum..
                      Last edited by rayg; 05-02-2020, 06:03.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RED
                        Back in the day... if you wanted to ship a small 2 0r 3 oz package, the USPS would take it. If you needed to ship something larger, you took it to the bus station and sent it via Greyhound... So along comes a new company that was trying to compete, the United Parcel Service. So in 1975, the postal service gave up on package delivery and the UPS and others took over.

                        If you want to "save" the Post Office... you would also want to save phone booths and aluminum toothpaste tubes. You would have to make it illegal to post catalogs or to send text messages on the internet, or send bulk packages via any other medium.

                        In order to stop getting billions of taxpayers money to keep an archaic system alive... increase the price of a 1st class stamp to $5.00 instead of $.50.

                        It probably doesn't matter, the United States Post Office is as dead as is the printed newspaper...

                        You can add brick and mortar stores to the eulogy.
                        the first company I worked for used the bus service to deliver order forms and a few other things,

                        then they went to using an intracompany mail for the stores,

                        as in hand a heavy canvas bag full of stuff to the truck driver making a delivery, and we sent stuff back to the warehouse and offices the same way,



                        BTW, USPS never gave up on packages, Parcel Post was a thing (and still an option) before they started Priority Mail,

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                        • clintonhater
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 5220

                          #27
                          Originally posted by rayg
                          I'm not a prude by any means, but now days the use of the word does not project well..and it reduces the quality of this forum...Okay I've said it again, now lets hear the defense of using the word. Ray
                          If you'd kept your mouth shut, instead of making an issue of it, few would even have noticed the word. But you HAD to make your PC "statement." Chinese movies primarily intended for the Asian market routinely cast a Caucasian as the principal "bad guy," and make use of the MANY derogatory slang words the Chinese have for Westerners, such as (when translated into English) "round eyes," "ghost," "foreign devil," etc. Any of those offend you? How about "honky," & whatever else blacks call whites? "Gringo" & "boleo" (white bread), used by Mexicans? I laugh at them all. Only those with an inferiority complex or a chip on their shoulders take offense.

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #28
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            BTW, USPS never gave up on packages, Parcel Post was a thing (and still an option) before they started Priority Mail,
                            OF COURSE, "USPS never gave up on packages"! Most of what I buy on line is shipped that way, including recently a pair of 5' long steel rocker-panel covers for my rusted out Cherokee.

                            But my biggest gripe against USPS is that PP has, for all practical purposes, been made pointless, because the price difference between PP & Priority is now negligible, except possibly for the very heaviest items.

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                            • Gun Smoke
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 1658

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rayg
                              Fine but what about the American people of who are Chinese or Asian decent and who some may even be on this forum....Are they the enemy of the US..Anyway, you're a big boy and you certainly can say any thing you want, I only gave you my opinion..I just I feel it degrades the quality of this forum..
                              This was the sentiment of the Americans prior to WW2. Because of all the Japanese embedded into American society along with the native Hawaiians who are chinky looking themselves, many of them were spy's sending info to Japan about Pearl Harbor making the attack as successful as it was. Most considered themselves citizens, some wanted to help, some even wanted to serve and fight against them but none could be trusted. That's why over 100,000 of them were corralled and put in camps so they could be watched. At the time we didn't know what all was going on or what to expect next. Not a whole lot different from now.

                              No other culture/race/society has caused more grief to the world.

                              Degrading this forum would be taking a liberal point of view of how great the Chinese are, how we shouldn't say bad things about them or call them names, how the world can't survive w/o them, and say they cause and do no harm.

                              I believe you said you were a former cop. As you know, a few bad apples spoils the whole bunch sometimes.
                              Last edited by Gun Smoke; 05-02-2020, 08:12.

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                              • lyman
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 11268

                                #30
                                Originally posted by clintonhater
                                OF COURSE, "USPS never gave up on packages"! Most of what I buy on line is shipped that way, including recently a pair of 5' long steel rocker-panel covers for my rusted out Cherokee.

                                But my biggest gripe against USPS is that PP has, for all practical purposes, been made pointless, because the price difference between PP & Priority is now negligible, except possibly for the very heaviest items.
                                true,

                                not sure why they even offer PP any longer,

                                many times, Priority is cheaper,



                                I used to ship some periodicals etc media mail when sold, until the post office (local) started inspecting them on receipt,

                                claims were folks were shipping non periodicals via MM, but the local post office wanted to inspect to make sure and did not want to add insurance at their cost for any damage done to the contents when opened,

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