Mt. St. Helens

[shadycon]

A coin has two sides; Some like heads and some like tails. Some hate heads and some hate tails, but life goes on!!

[rayg]

And what I said is still true..

[lyman]

Well that's interesting Bruce. So do we discount the important work of highly educated people because they are Democrats ?
On one hand we have a highly educated scientist with an opinion on a disease , or water pollution etc etc
On the other hand we have a real estate inheritor with an opinion on a disease, or water pollution etc etc
.... I'm going with the scientist every time

With respect, discount the work of anyone regardless of education if they are demokrats. If that seems extreme, it is. It is just as extreme as the left-wing routine of discounting the work of anyone regardless of education if they are Republicans or Conservatives.

When it comes to disease, environmental issues, etc., go with what scientist have to say ... but pay attention to their political and social agenda. Do not be surprised when not if but when you find that the scientific positions they take well serve their own political and social interest. Oh, and pay attention to the money. Money talks. See who is paying the bills, funding the research, etc. Sincerely. bruce.

Bruce would admit he is not taking a scientific view of things, and is himself in a highly subjective line of work.

he may, or may not, not needed either way,

if you were as subjective as you say, the bolded part would strike true,

[Major Tom]

What about "climate change"? Those scientists were not politically influenced? Me being in the Midwest, we are having below freezing temps and the N.E. is getting a lot of snow. I would like climate change if it meant warmer winters.

[togor]

Science is a human endeavor. Like so many other human endeavors it experiences the good and bad traits of individual humans.

Can there be any doubt though that as a way of looking at the world, the scientific method has brought amazing and durable increases in human knowledge? I say no. Both good and bad? Definitely yes. Destabilizing? Absolutely! Powerful? Without question.

I work with scientists. No sh*t they have their biases. That doesn't invalidate the scientific approach in the broad sense.

Oh and I hear eggs are good for us this week so eat up because that could change soon.

[lyman]

how about butter, can I get some butter to put on my toast,


and does it have to be whole grain, or wheat , or spelt?

or has good old white bread come back in favor?

[Vern Humphrey]

One of the lessons to come out of Mount Saint Helens is the story of Harry R. Truman. Eighty-five years old and a widower, he lived in the fishing camp he and his wife owned. He refused to evacuate and is now presumed to be buried under 150 feet of volcanic debris. Because of him, Oregon changed its law, and now a person who refuses the Governor's order to evacuate can be forcibly moved.

Wait a minute! The man was 85 years old, living where he had always lived -- what kind of life would he have had if he had been forcibly relocated? He made his own choice, and no one can say he made the wrong choice.

[dryheat]

I agree with that one. Maybe not a good way to good but it sure would be something to see that close up. People can elect to not be resuscitated.
Mt St. Helens and the Japanese tsunami are a couple of the most amazing natural things I heard of in my life time. The meteor that blew the windows out over Russia was pretty impressive. Kind of reminds you that we live in an active universe.

[togor]

IIRC the Russians let play that it was some kind of American test. See what happens when a country is run by conspiracy theorists.

[dryheat]

Conspiracy theorists are like queers. You knew there some out there, but who knew there were so many out there.