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  • SUPERX-M1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 224

    #1

    Cost of cigarettes: Avg $6.10 for pack of 20 in Ohio, also............

    Cost is $20 usd in Australia. $1 in Pakistan.

    Big profits to mfg co. and big tax revenue to the usa states.

    I am not sure, but, possibly, Health Care costs are a fraction of the profits to the states via taxes.

    Knew a wv man who had a tobacco allotment- he bought ready made and when he had a possible cancer scare, and it wasn't , he went right back to smoking. Always wondered if you could make a decent cig or cigar, if grew own tobacco.

    In law smoked, 60, copd, on oxygen, died in hospital.

    Neighbors rebel son smokes-will not quit

    State run grass is very expensive. Very profitable for state. (Gambling is profitable for state also). Could raise your own in limited amts in some states. In others, will just seize your house and property, if catch you. I have read that police like to seize property and assets in many situations, and is very difficult to get prop and assets back-doesn't matter if cause does not exist. Profitable for police and communities and state. Courts, judges and lawyers like these situations.

    Am just curious on these issues. I don't smoke tobacco or other. Am fortunate and unfortunate to have severe tobacco smoke allergy.

    Edit: About 17 % of adults smoke in OH and 16 % of high school students in ohio during 2016.
    Edit: Coal miners black lung disease is caused by cigarette smoke paralyzing the cilia in lungs, so particulates are not slowly expelled from lung. Another hard way to die.
    Last edited by SUPERX-M1; 08-22-2020, 02:03.
  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #2
    How many people have you seen riding an electric wheelchair with a plastic tube up their nose and smoking a cigarette?
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • PWC
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1366

      #3
      My wife quit smoking Pall Mall red in 1967 when it was 35 cents a pack...couldn't afford it. Two years later her lungs were clear, and are still healthy at 78.

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      • bdm
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 613

        #4
        A good friend of mine died of lung cancer in 1973 from smoking i watched him go from 175lbs to 65lbs in a hospital bed last time i saw him i walked out of his room through my cigarettes in the garbage can never smoked again i will be 70 in November i have clear lungs and feel good 175lbs good weight

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        • blackhawknj
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 3754

          #5
          Never took it up myself, decided 60 years ago it was a stupid idea.
          I recall my Econ 101 instructor in college commenting on the lack of logic-the hypocrisy, he said-of legalizing something, taxing it heavily to discourage consumption-but expecting the tax revenue to be there and the wondering why it isn't.
          I have found smokers to be the most consistently inconsiderate people I have ever met.

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          • barretcreek
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 6065

            #6
            Mother had a friend on oxygen, smoking in the car. You know how this ends. Still smokes.

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            • Major Tom
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 6181

              #7
              I'm 75, smoked since I was 12. As of last January my lungs are clear, no cigarrette hacking or lack of breathing well. I smoke my own cigs using pipe tobacco which does not have the chemicals in factory cigs. No cancer at all in my family. I smoke about 1 1/2 packs per day. Not all lung cancer is caused by cigs or the smoke from them. The people in those anti smoking TV ads who have deformities and such are suffering from other things besides cigs. BTW, making my own cigs cost about $0.70 per pack or $7.00 per carton.
              Last edited by Major Tom; 08-22-2020, 01:44.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Originally posted by Major Tom
                I'm 75, smoked since I was 12. As of last January my lungs are clear, no cigarrette hacking or lack of breathing well. I smoke my own cigs using pipe tobacco which does not have the chemicals in factory cigs. No cancer at all in my family. I smoke about 1 1/2 packs per day. Not all lung cancer is caused by cigs or the smoke from them. The people in those anti smoking TV ads who have deformities and such are suffering from other things besides cigs. BTW, making my own cigs cost about $0.70 per pack or $7.00 per carton.
                I had a very good and close friend die from lung cancer. He was 56 years old and had never smoked. He was a truck driver and had a wreck. His company policy required him to have a physical and the Dr's diagnosed the cancer. He was dead within 3 months.

                No you don't have to smoke to have lung cancer. But smoking is a hazard and you have been lucky the genes you were gifted with have kept you safe. I don't climb bluffs, I don't have pictures of me hanging over a 1,000' canyon holding on with just one hand, I don't jump out of perfectly good airplanes and dare the chute to not open. Smoking is just another daredevil stunt where you are risking your life for no reason. Yes, I smoked from 16 years old till was 43. You can quit, and you and yours will be better off.

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                • Major Tom
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6181

                  #9
                  I did jump out of perfectly good airplanes when I was in the Army at Ft. Bragg, NC.

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                  • SUPERX-M1
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 224

                    #10
                    The internet has many threads on rolling your own cigs, using bought pipe tobacco (threads on how to specially process the pipe tobacco so will work in a cig roller machine, diff between cig and pipe tobacco, taste,.... I did not read any article, but there they were.

                    My Mother said when she was young , she was foolish, and rolled cigs for her husband on a machine roller of some sort. We had a copper lined humidor-a little box on legs.

                    In the movie, Paper Moon, the 8 year old girl, played by Tatum O'Neal, rolled her own by hand.Ryan O'neal was in the movie also.Tatum ,in real life had a rough deal-dad and mom were/are neglectful,jealous narcissists. A very good movie, con man ryan turns tatum into a con artist , depression era . Worth watching.
                    Last edited by SUPERX-M1; 08-23-2020, 01:19.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Indonesia is a lucrative tobacco market. They smoke like crazy there and there are few if any regs, even for kids.

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                      • JB White
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13371

                        #12
                        Like Major Tom, I've been a smoker for well over half a century. Like him my lungs are still clear. Xray techs on different occasions said smiling "I see you're a non-smoker which is great." Huh?
                        Docs have told me when asked that some.....SOME people for some reason do not retain tar and those people tend not to trigger the cancer genes. However, it doesn't mean the nicotine isn't having some effect somewhere. There are only suspicions which have been turned to blame because that supports the goal.

                        They can't say that smoking research is flawed and there are exceptions to the 'rule'. It isn't beneficial to the public interest at large.
                        2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                        **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                        • SloopJohnB
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1395

                          #13
                          Started smoking as a 17 year old Navy Gunner's Mate in 1956. Cigarettes (Sea Stores) were $0.10/pack outside the 12 mile limit! Quit smoking at age 40, and very glad I did. 82 now and pretty healthy overall.

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                          • tmark
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1900

                            #14
                            In the early sixties, I, a minor at the time, could walk into a High's store and buy my mom cigarettes (Taryton) for 25 cents a pack.

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                            • Merc
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 1690

                              #15
                              $.25 in 1963 is worth $2.11 in today’s dollars.

                              I smoked as a teen because all my friends smoked but gave it up when the Surgeon General said there was a link between smoking and lung cancer. I’ve been anti smoking every since and struggled to get my wife to quit. Morning sickness from when she was pregnant with our first child did the trick. Keeping both kids off cigs was also a challenge. I actually know very few people who still smoke. Those few that still smoke are in poor health and they spend enough each month on cigs to buy a new car.

                              I was in the Navy in the 1960s and we were given cigarette ration chits that I used to give to my friends who were smokers. Ten cents a pack was reality. A few would risk prosecution by selling their rationed cigs to locals on the black market for huge profits. I remember how bad the foreign made cigs smelled. No wonder the US made cigs were so popular.

                              I’ve seen several relatives and a few friends die of lung cancer. Believe it when I say that it is near the top of the list as one of the most horrific ways to die. Both lungs typically fill with fluid and blood and must be pumped out every few days with a huge hypodermic needle.

                              My wife and I lived in an apartment when we were first married and our next door neighbor suffered from a severe case of emphysema. He said it was like trying to breath through a straw. He was dead within a year after it was discovered that he had lung cancer.

                              There’s a particularly nasty fungus infection of the lungs that I caught in Arizona in 2014. It’s known as Valley Fever. The fungus spores live in the soil and become active in the spring and fall. I was cleaning horse stalls and obviously stirred up some dust that I breathed. I was back home in Pittsburgh when the symptoms started to become apparent. My family doctor diagnosed it and sent me to an infectious disease doctor who successfully treated me for nine months with Diflucan.

                              Edit: My grand daughter just returned home after spending two months in Baltimore, MD while serving an internship at a hospital and stayed in two separate apartments. The smell of marijuana was nearly everywhere in public places.
                              Last edited by Merc; 08-25-2020, 03:30.

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