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  • SUPERX-M1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 224

    #16
    Approximate statement by an American tobacco executive: " I don't smoke that sh#t. That stuff will kill you." Yeah,he knew and the companies knew.

    When BIL was in the us army, break time was announced by " If you got em, smoke em." And, everybody had them.
    Last edited by SUPERX-M1; 08-24-2020, 07:17.

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    • Major Tom
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 6181

      #17
      There is an assortment of chemicals that are put in cigs. Nicotine is the least toxic of the bunch. Now cigs go out by themselves when not constantly puffed. Making my own cigs using pipe tobacco means a lot less chemicals. Certain cancers are hereditary. Some people get cancers while still living a 'clean' life.

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      • tmark
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1900

        #18
        Viping is no better than smoking the real thing!

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        • Gun Smoke
          Banned
          • Sep 2019
          • 1658

          #19
          Maybe non-smokers can get in on the bandwagon and DEMAND reparations for being exposed to cigarette smoke.

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          • blackhawknj
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3754

            #20
            Yes, it was always a source of resentment in my Army days when we heard "POLICE CALL! " and we non-smokers had to pick cigarette butts that had been in someone's filthy mouth. Or trying to run a range and constantly repeating "NO SMOKING ON THE RANGE !" And I wonder how many accidents involving POL or munitions were caused by someone trying to sneak a smoke.

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            • Johnny P
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6259

              #21
              As a kid both my parents smoked. Can still remember during the winter months choking in the rear seat of the car while both parents smoked. Never had any desire to smoke.

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              • Gun Smoke
                Banned
                • Sep 2019
                • 1658

                #22
                It's amazing how strong a grip the tobacco industry had on the world. All cars once had cigarette lighters and ashtrays (many still do). All motels and restaurants had complementary matches and ashtrays. Everybody had to breath that s**t that was being exhaled by someone else. Those of us who had office jobs were pretty much screwed unless we had a desk near a door or window that could be opened. I remember women complaining that they had to wash their long hair every day because it stunk of smoke from office smokers.

                Most movies had actors who smoked during filming. Magazines and TV were full of advertisement and commercials. It was taught to be a way of life, an essential to life like eating and drinking. The message was "implied" that teenagers smoking at school was cool. While no one forced us to smoke we all had to breath someone else's smoke.

                Even after all the evidence came out on the dangers of smoking the tobacco industry is still glorified. Yet the lawyers chase after lawsuits against asbestos, pesticides and weed killers that never claimed their products were safe to consume.

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                • blackhawknj
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3754

                  #23
                  I am pleased that there has been enough of a crackdown on selling to minors so that lazy parents can't use their children as errand boys. One man told me one time his father put some things for the kids at the grocery back because he didn't have enough cash to pay for them and his smokes.

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                  • JB White
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13371

                    #24
                    I have no problem with most of the restrictions on smoking these days. Shameful that laws needed to be passed to enforce what should have been "good manners" though.

                    What I find appalling is the social attitude of most anti smokers. Not non smokers, but anti smokers. Demands for Draconian style regulations in some areas. Attitudes of persecution akin to banishment and death wishes towards lepers. The constant loud ramblings of the drama queens...

                    Many of these same people are the ones promoting the legalization and public acceptance of marijuana. They'll preach acceptance of sexual perversions, and instant immediate love for those of any race, color, or creed without ever having gotten to know them. Tolerance of those rioting and looting because they "understand" why they need to do what they do.
                    Let them see a puff of tobacco smoke and some react with straight up hatred and the ferocity of a lynch mob.
                    Two faced hypocrisy if you ask me.
                    Last edited by JB White; 08-27-2020, 06:03.
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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #25
                      Smoking has gone out of fashion, I read that in 1950 60% of adults smoked, in 2000 28%, I note that in the apartment complex I live in I can't remember the last time I saw someone smoking. Basic Training in the military has been smoke free since the 1980s.
                      When people show no consideration for others laws and regulations are necessary. Inconsiderate shooters are not welcome at the range, why should inconsiderate people be welcomed anywhere else?

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                      • SUPERX-M1
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 224

                        #26
                        My office was contiguous with office of health care professional. He smoked in his office and smoke leaked into mine. I asked if he would smoke outside because I had a severe tobacco smoke allergy. No, and there was nothing I could do about it, he said. So, I taped up doors, bought HEPA filters, and ion generators, and managed to get by. Despite this , he expected us to have a friendly relationship.

                        Founder and president of gun club was a smoker. I asked if club could go smoke free. No, he said, and you do not have the support to make it smoke free. He did have his supporters. Some years later, legislation was passed, and the club went non-smoking. He may have been deceased at that point.

                        I have heard smokers railing that they have rights also. None seemed to care that they were abusing others. Not sure what the most current attitudes are.
                        Last edited by SUPERX-M1; 08-27-2020, 09:06.

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                        • Gun Smoke
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 1658

                          #27
                          Originally posted by blackhawknj
                          Smoking has gone out of fashion, I read that in 1950 60% of adults smoked, in 2000 28%, I note that in the apartment complex I live in I can't remember the last time I saw someone smoking. Basic Training in the military has been smoke free since the 1980s.
                          When people show no consideration for others laws and regulations are necessary. Inconsiderate shooters are not welcome at the range, why should inconsiderate people be welcomed anywhere else?
                          Go sit in a used car for sale.

                          A smoker absolutely can not and will not drive unless they can smoke when their butt hits the seat of a car. It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to drive w/o smoking. I live beside a state hwy, people throw out all of their litter including glass bottles, fast food wrappers and the like. What I see most is cigarette butts and wrappers.

                          There may be a fewer % of people smoking now but there are so many more people now that it has more than made up for it.

                          When a used car comes up for sale "non-smoker" is one of the most important features. Few can be listed as such though. The cigarette odor can not be eliminated. The dealership gimicks work only for a couple of days--when you turn on the a/c: there it is. Reason enough to buy new.

                          The last time I went to a casino you practically couldn't see your hand in front of your face and after about 30 minutes I felt I had been breathing a lit torch and had to leave.

                          Overall people do seem to be refraining from smoking in public but I feel it is mostly because of the surroundings around them such as no ash trays for their convenience, restaurants prohibiting them and so forth.

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                          • blackhawknj
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 3754

                            #28
                            I worked part time for a large limousine company for years, it was a running gag that if a passenger complained of cigarette smell the nicotine fiend driver would blame it on a previous passenger. The head of the detail department had enough clout that eventually several cars were designated as smoking cars, quite a few passengers had a no smoking/no tobacco smell in their profiles.

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                            • Merc
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 1690

                              #29
                              Most people who smoke seem to be young women.

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                              • SUPERX-M1
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 224

                                #30
                                Originally posted by blackhawknj
                                I worked part time for a large limousine company for years, it was a running gag that if a passenger complained of cigarette smell the nicotine fiend driver would blame it on a previous passenger. The head of the detail department had enough clout that eventually several cars were designated as smoking cars, quite a few passengers had a no smoking/no tobacco smell in their profiles.
                                Parents bought a car and didn't realize previous was a pipe smoker. Very bad. Took it to a fire damage company and they ran an industrial ion generator inside it. This actually worked.

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