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  • JB White
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 13371

    #16
    Originally posted by clintonhater
    Bravo for that! But it would be safer to actually get them into your son's possession without her knowing about it. If you drop dead & they're still in your house, tags won't mean anything.
    That has been discussed. As it stands, he's raising my grand daughter in an apartment and his wife feels as though its best to leave them in the safes they're in right now.
    2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


    **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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    • Gun Smoke
      Banned
      • Sep 2019
      • 1658

      #17
      Originally posted by clintonhater
      Bravo for that! But it would be safer to actually get them into your son's possession without her knowing about it. If you drop dead & they're still in your house, tags won't mean anything.
      +1

      Not to leave your daughter short ended, you could always leave her other things such as your wifes jewelry, furniture, car, etc...

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11270

        #18
        togor is correct,

        sell them off gradually until they are gone,

        however, you still need to know what you have, and what goes with them (as in do you have a box of accessories etc for them)

        may be a good idea to do a good inventory of what is where,


        meanwhile,

        museums, generally it will either be sold for funds,, or put in storage until someone decides to sell them for funds, unless it is a truly unique piece,


        with out knowing what type of firearms you have, or the rarity if any, auction houses are generally not that great an idea,
        RIA and similar only really push the nice stuff in the big catalog auctions, full retail is rarely achieved in the other lesser auctions,


        and most dealers or LGS's have to make a profit,

        some may treat you well, some may stick it to you,

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        • SUPERX-M1
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 224

          #19
          Where to sell, specifically and how:

          OK, thanks to Lyman, we now know not to send common guns to ria. Only send elite guns. One man posted he sent very expensive Luger pistols, ria not co-operative, said don't worry, Results were terrible.Again, poor descriptions and the lot is sold in 30 seconds.The poor descriptions make it dangerous for seller and buyer.

          Lyman has posted that he sells at his gun shop, at gun shows, and E-Bay, and GunBroker.

          Re gunbroker and ebay: Should a reserve price be set? What about the starting bid price? And BIN - Buy it now price ? What works with these? Guns are expensive, not a 40 buck item. Buyer wants to steal it and you want their value.

          It would seem that if you know your price, you could sell at cmp forum Buy or Sell section. Maybe , other gun sites have such sections. Such as Smith and Wesson Forums?....

          Also, issues with fraud-not receiving actual , genuine payment. Item returned with the stock or parts swapped out. I have heard that it is difficult to cope with swapped parts, and that ebay protects the buyer and not the seller. Claims they never received item. Escrow companies?? Possible to receive payment via paypal or? There will be books at the library re selling on ebay that would address these issues. and maybe internet articles on ebay and gunbroker.

          Also, if known that you have guns, at risk of theft. One burglar said that he just followed autos that had NRA stickers home. Some have been robbed at the point of sale. Home invasion and burglary.

          Comments and advice would be so appreciated . How did you sell your guns. Where did you find your buyer?

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          • kj47
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 699

            #20
            Been selling off gradually as I go, keeping the best for last. Even bought a new one after selling 4, Always wanted a single actio army.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11270

              #21
              Originally posted by SUPERX-M1
              OK, thanks to Lyman, we now know not to send common guns to ria. Only send elite guns. One man posted he sent very expensive Luger pistols, ria not co-operative, said don't worry, Results were terrible.Again, poor descriptions and the lot is sold in 30 seconds.The poor descriptions make it dangerous for seller and buyer.

              Lyman has posted that he sells at his gun shop, at gun shows, and E-Bay, and GunBroker.

              Re gunbroker and ebay: Should a reserve price be set? What about the starting bid price? And BIN - Buy it now price ? What works with these? Guns are expensive, not a 40 buck item. Buyer wants to steal it and you want their value.
              ebay is for parts and accessories only, (and even then there may be restrictions or stuff prohibited)
              example, if you have a rifle with a ton of accessories , or reloading gear, or just some parts/sights/ scopes, you will do better selling them on ebay , usually,

              detailed description, and set a price (buy it now) or start at a fair price and let it run (BTW, some folks like penny starts, others do not, your choice)


              gunbroker is the same, fixed price listing, or run an auction, start at a penny or start at what you think is a fair price, and let it run,

              both have provisions where you can see completed sold auctions, to give you an idea of what similar items have sold for,




              It would seem that if you know your price, you could sell at cmp forum Buy or Sell section. Maybe , other gun sites have such sections. Such as Smith and Wesson Forums?....

              most forums, including this one, have for sale/trader type sections,

              you may get more hits, and better confidence from buyers, if you post them for sale in forums you are known in


              Also, issues with fraud-not receiving actual , genuine payment. Item returned with the stock or parts swapped out. I have heard that it is difficult to cope with swapped parts, and that ebay protects the buyer and not the seller. Claims they never received item. Escrow companies?? Possible to receive payment via paypal or? There will be books at the library re selling on ebay that would address these issues. and maybe internet articles on ebay and gunbroker.
              paypal will lock you account and keep the funds for 180 days if you sell firearms or stuff paypal does not like,
              this is a fact,

              I am on my 4th or 5th paypal account because some buyer did not know what discrete payment was, or paypal did an audit, (and once they asked to us to put the paypal logo on our listings, then got mad cause we sold guns,,,)

              most folks are honest, do a standard 3 day and tell them you don't ship until payment clears (generally 24/48 hrs) if you are unsure,


              and yes, ebay cares little about the seller, other than monitoring what is sold, and getting the fee $$$


              Also, if known that you have guns, at risk of theft. One burglar said that he just followed autos that had NRA stickers home. Some have been robbed at the point of sale. Home invasion and burglary.
              unless you are selling a large lot to a dealer, never ever do a private sale at your home,

              meet in a parking lot (well lit , daytime only etc etc) and swap funds for item, if it is legal in your area, or meet at a LGS,


              you may be dealing with the nicest most trustworthy guy in town, but he tells his buddy, who tells his buddy, who had a kid or whatever that tells a thug and then you are a victim,


              Comments and advice would be so appreciated . How did you sell your guns. Where did you find your buyer?

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              • JB White
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 13371

                #22
                Originally posted by kj47
                Been selling off gradually as I go, keeping the best for last. Even bought a new one after selling 4, Always wanted a single actio army.
                Selling 4 to pick up one isn't any loss so long as the collection improves. I have sold dozens of common arms to afford more scarce ones.

                Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                +1

                Not to leave your daughter short ended, you could always leave her other things such as your wifes jewelry, furniture, car, etc...
                Right now her college indoctrination is making it so nobody in the family (conservative, liberal, or in the middle) is likely to leave her much. Including her own mother. Everyone is a white privileged racist and she isn't shy about yelling it in our faces. We all want to deport her fiance just like Trump does. Doesn't matter his family is from Texas pre-republic days and has been US citizens before our family was. Heck, he looks as white as we do for chrissakes!
                2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                • SUPERX-M1
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 224

                  #23
                  Lyman helps us with info. Thanks, Lyman. Also

                  Re swapped parts: If you object to this, will get negative feedback and perhaps, in some way, ebay or.. will sanction you , the innocent seller. You could ship item back to buyer, refuse to refund. I do not know the consequences of this. Nor, what can be done to protect self. Good photos before ship. And..? I do not know what this Escrow Acct w companies is all about. Internet and books may have a few answers on swapping..

                  Discrete PayPal. Check out the internet on this. Paypal is owned by ebay. Neither abides firearms. Discrete PayPal is a work around payment. Apparently, paypal is the only workable online payment system. Perhaps , buyers are afraid of use of credit cards or too hard to set up the use of. I do not know any of this. Or how the buyer messes up the discrete payment or how one sets up new acct if first is cancelled. So, go to internet.

                  It may be very hard to find good buyer for elite or specialized items. That buyer may be reluctant to pay proper value. Also, can go to ria and attend sales in person for purpose of buying. Do a pre sales examination of items or lots. Less expensive rifles are clumped into single lot of perhaps 5 items.
                  Last edited by SUPERX-M1; 08-27-2020, 08:41.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11270

                    #24
                    paypal and ebay have split,

                    ebay is moving on to a thing called Managed pay or something similar, eventually most if not all users will have it available

                    your paypal, if that is what you use, pays into my managed pay account, that ebay pays out to me,
                    or your CC,

                    I also process CC's on Gunbroker thru my phone app, (I don't trust GB yet with my processor, since they can't seem to get the messaging system right)
                    most folks have no issue calling me and letting me run the card,
                    some even email the CC numbers, (similar to how Empire Arms does)


                    venmo is another online payment option, but I have not tried it and likely wont

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JB White
                      Selling 4 to pick up one isn't any loss so long as the collection improves. I have sold dozens of common arms to afford more scarce ones.



                      Right now her college indoctrination is making it so nobody in the family (conservative, liberal, or in the middle) is likely to leave her much. Including her own mother. Everyone is a white privileged racist and she isn't shy about yelling it in our faces. We all want to deport her fiance just like Trump does. Doesn't matter his family is from Texas pre-republic days and has been US citizens before our family was. Heck, he looks as white as we do for chrissakes!
                      Man I hate youong smart assed girls like that. They(in general)are the product of poor child raising. But they can be hard to corral. One; no blacks or Mexicans. You want to start that, find somewhere else to live. I don't have kids, but a guy in a bar told me that. His daughter was some kind of and officer in a corporation.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • Gun Smoke
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2019
                        • 1658

                        #26
                        Originally posted by JB White
                        Right now her college indoctrination is making it so nobody in the family (conservative, liberal, or in the middle) is likely to leave her much. Including her own mother. Everyone is a white privileged racist and she isn't shy about yelling it in our faces.
                        Her name isn't Greta is it?

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                        • SUPERX-M1
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 224

                          #27
                          At gundigest.com/free

                          Many free articles to download.

                          One on selling/buying on line. 16 pg. by Jim Thompson of garand and book fame. READ IT. Go to site, register for their newsletter with email address, click on article and download. EZ.

                          Hunt around on site : gun articles,

                          Go to home page, at midpage it will say gear, to the right says more. Click.
                          then click on auctions, also collecting, ...

                          I recommend that you do this.

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                          • retread12345
                            Member
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 96

                            #28
                            NO EXPERT If you have grand kids sell the collection and put the money in a trust for them

                            It is as much fun selling as buying I am 72 and since there is no one really interested in guns. or history it was a good solution

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                            • Former Cav
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2241

                              #29
                              Red,
                              I am 73 and had triple bypass, 2 heart attcks, and 1 stent in that order
                              HAD 43 guns. Only son didnt want any.
                              I sold 31 of them
                              Now, he wants a 45 (after I sold 5 of them)
                              and a shoty and assault weapon. I already sold the pre 87 model870, and two pre 1980 m1a"s
                              guess he is a day late!!
                              all i got left is bolt guns in 243 and my ccw which im keepimg till i die.

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                              • SUPERX-M1
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 224

                                #30
                                Former Cav and others: How did you sell them, what venue, gun broker, set prices,find your customers,mistakes, would do different?

                                Help this thread out and give us your experience.

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