How to store and hide a gun for decades.

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    How to store and hide a gun for decades.

    Yes for decades and it is easy. It takes a field stripped firearm, a appropriate sized PVC pipe, 2 PVC caps, and the proper glue to seal airtight.
    Field strip the gun and wipe the pieces with your favorite gun oil, then put your gun in the pipe with no padding. Go to your friendly neighborhood muffler or welding shop and get them to fill the pipe with argon. Argon is heavier than air and will displace any air and humidity. A lit candle will tell you when the pipe is full. Seal the end and go bury it. It cannot rust or corrode in the argon. BTW you need some ammo in there too.

    I have a PVC fence behind my house!
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    6" PVC pipe, cemented endcap at one end, threaded cap at the other. Put a VCI emitter in the tube with the firearm, or put it in a VCI bag). Grease on the threads (as opposed to thread sealer) will prevent cap removal from being an aggravating hassle years later

    If I was going to bury said tube, it would still be under a roof--say an old barn or shed.

    Not that I've spent any time thinking about this.

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    • Johnny P
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6260

      #3
      Where does decades later remembering where you hid it fit in?

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #4
        Originally posted by Johnny P
        Where does decades later remembering where you hid it fit in?
        Or croaking before telling others where they are hidden?

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        • RED
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11689

          #5
          My very healthy 52 year son old knows as well as a couple of grandsons and nephews. If you have a gun you want to remain pristine for your offspring here is the way. If you do not give a damn about that dont bother.
          Last edited by RED; 09-06-2022, 05:06.

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            When togor wins and they come and invade your home and confiscate your guns and your wifes panties Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be).

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Post #6 needs moderation.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                Post #6 needs moderation.
                he is just commenting on your past comments on voting , and gun control,

                nothing that crosses a line,


                wonder who taught him that,,,,, the not crossing the line part........

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  I sort of get the idea of burying things. The PVC pipe plan is good. There was a guy who committed suicide and left his last message in PVC. They didn't stumble across him for many years. But a very small percentage of the population cares to read it. Burying a gun for decades? What is the point? When I die my brother gets my stuff the next day. I suppose if you are going to prison you could bury the loot like that in anticipation of getting it later Shawshank Redemption style.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    he is just commenting on your past comments on voting , and gun control,

                    nothing that crosses a line,


                    wonder who taught him that,,,,, the not crossing the line part........
                    What past comment on gun control? This "past comments" excuse gets trotted out a lot. Yet here I am improving on his PVC tube, not ridiculing it in any way. To do a proper argon purge on a container is not as simple as "go see your local welder". Also if I had a tube I meant to make disappear into the earth, I sure wouldn't advertise the fact beforehand by lugging it--obviously full of *something*--into some shop for an inert gas purge.

                    "What's in the tube, buddy?"

                    Also, 0% humidity is bad news--very bad--if there's a wood stock involved. 40% RH at storage temps is fine. VCI and light oil will allow the gun to be brought out of storage and ready for use with minimum work.

                    I say over the line because RED makes it political by making it about gun control. The sticky says that belongs elsewhere yes?

                    As for who taught RED what, none of it came from me.

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                    • Johnny P
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6260

                      #11
                      How many of the other family members should you apprise of hiding a gun that belongs to one of them in case some develop dementia? If all the guns have been confiscated, won't that make the recipient a criminal?

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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        How about heavy grease-cosmoline ? Sounds like a good argument for stainless steel.

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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10583

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Johnny P
                          How many of the other family members should you apprise of hiding a gun that belongs to one of them in case some develop dementia? If all the guns have been confiscated, won't that make the recipient a criminal?
                          I would say tell all family members who are interested.

                          If confiscation happens no one involved with the gov't needs to know about the buried guns. That's why they are buried in the first place. Meanwhile if SHTF the recipient can always dig up some protection.

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                          • dryheat
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 10587

                            #14
                            Total dryness isn't good for wood, per togor. I agree. A lot of wood suffers without that moistness from nice damp evenings. I left a Boyds stock out in the shed for a summer and it cracked big time. Arizona. Drying wood or salmon (or mummies) takes a little time. Hey, don't make me come in there.
                            Last edited by dryheat; 09-06-2022, 09:54.
                            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by blackhawknj
                              How about heavy grease-cosmoline ? Sounds like a good argument for stainless steel.
                              Guessing the idea is to save labor bringing the gun back into service. But digging takes labor too. The military went to VCI for a reason, and I think that's the right answer here has well. Also if not stainless steel, then a chrome-lined bore.

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                              Originally posted by dryheat
                              Total dryness isn't good for wood, per togor. I agree. A lot of wood suffers without that moistness from nice damp evenings. I left a Boyds stock out in the shed for a summer and it cracked big time. Arizona. Drying wood or salmon (or mummies) takes a little time. Hey, don't make me come in there.
                              Wood and leather last longest with about 50% humidity. Subject them to 0% and they turn to dust. If I was storing plastic/metal firearms, sure pop some dessicants in the tube before closing it up.

                              Those ammo spam cans we all like were just sealed up with factory air, hopefully not too humid, and years later the cardboard and cloth are like new and so are the en bloc clips.
                              Last edited by togor; 09-07-2022, 02:27.

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