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  • Ken The Kanuck
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 4094

    #1

    Do you know what this is?

    I don't think Americans are allowed to own them.

    KTK
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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Don't know what it is, but why can't we own them?

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10580

      #3
      Looks like a Helwan or a Beretta 1951 to me. The Helwan is a copy of the Beretta. If that's the case they used to be plentiful and cheap here. I had one, kept it a few years and decided I didn't want to get into yet another caliber cartridge (9mm) so I sold it.

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      • barretcreek
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 6065

        #4
        Cleopatra on the medallion?

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        • kj47
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 699

          #5
          Looks like a helwan. single stack 8 shot. had one, it was ok. sold it.

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            My Taurus is a neat Berretta copy. Don't know what that is. Looks like a gun though.

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            • Ken The Kanuck
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 4094

              #7
              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              Don't know what it is, but why can't we own them?
              Hi Vern,

              I think it might be in the same boat as Norinco, unless the government has changed its mind and allows Americans to purchase from them now.

              KTK

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10580

                #8
                I'm not familiar with the medallion on the grips with the little action figure, the rest of the gun, yes.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11266

                  #9
                  we got a ton of the Egyptian version, but the only Iraqi versions were smuggled back as far as I know,


                  http://www.military-today.com/firear...9%20and%201980.

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                  • blackhawknj
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3754

                    #10
                    The Wikipedia article shows one with the same grips, says it is a Tariq-Iraqi version. On another board a member said he had to replace the locking block in his-cost him $70.00,

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                    • Ken The Kanuck
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 4094

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blackhawknj
                      The Wikipedia article shows one with the same grips, says it is a Tariq-Iraqi version. On another board a member said he had to replace the locking block in his-cost him $70.00,
                      You are correct blackhawknj, it is a Tariq.

                      Here is an article on them.

                      https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ira...pistol-at-ria/

                      KTK

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                      • Ken The Kanuck
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 4094

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        we got a ton of the Egyptian version, but the only Iraqi versions were smuggled back as far as I know,


                        http://www.military-today.com/firear...9%20and%201980.
                        Hi lyman, you are correct, I did not look up the thread to see that you had already provided the correct answer.

                        KTK

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ken The Kanuck
                          Hi Vern,

                          I think it might be in the same boat as Norinco, unless the government has changed its mind and allows Americans to purchase from them now.

                          KTK
                          Nope -- we can own anything. However Chinese guns can't be imported as I understand it.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11266

                            #14
                            with the changes in Canadian gun laws, can you resell it or is it one that goes to the smelter when you pass or turn it in?

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                            • Ken The Kanuck
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 4094

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              with the changes in Canadian gun laws, can you resell it or is it one that goes to the smelter when you pass or turn it in?
                              I gave my kid all my guns, who knows what the halfwits in Ottawa will do in the future, but if nothing else I suspect they will grandfather whatever asshole laws they invent.

                              But like the failed long gun registry, with a change in government there may be a change in the law. Let's hope!

                              KTK

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