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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #16
    During my Navy years I eyeballed things at night that were obviously unknowable and my long range radar was essentially useless because of trash returns. The radar in those days were kinda like AM radio (I could as a kid listen to WLS radio in Chicago on my crude crystal radio in Ark) at night. There were words for that back then, bounce was one, second time around is another.

    I also watched Sputniks in the 1950s and they were not lighted.

    A UFO is simply something that you cannot identify but there are usually a simple answer. Here is one example.

    Northern lights enthusiasts got a surprise mixed in with the green bands of light dancing in the Alaska skies: A light baby blue spiral resembling a galaxy appeared amid the aurora for a few minutes. The cause early Saturday morning was a little more mundane than an alien invasion or the appearance of a portal to the far reaches of the universe. It was simply excess fuel released from a SpaceX rocket that launched from California about three hours earlier. The fuel turned to ice, and then the water vapor reflected the sunlight in the atmosphere, causing the spiral to be visible.


    Just my $.02.

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #17
      Do I believe in UFOs?

      Of course I believe in Unbelievably Fat Objects -- Whoopi Goldberg and Hillary Clinton, for example.

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      • pcox
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 386

        #18
        Originally posted by Merc
        Low earth orbit satellites that attain an altitude of 150 miles must travel at more than 17,000 MPH to maintain that altitude.
        The International Space Station is one such satellite. I think it's orbit is around 120 miles. I've observed it many times and it takes it a lot longer to cross the sky than what I saw Friday night. UFO? Probably could call it that, but it's bound to be of terrestrial origin, because as I've said before, if there were aliens out there we would be sending them foreign aid by now.

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        • Phloating Phlasher
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 508

          #19
          Originally posted by RED
          During my Navy years I eyeballed things at night that were obviously unknowable and my long range radar was essentially useless because of trash returns. The radar in those days were kinda like AM radio (I could as a kid listen to WLS radio in Chicago on my crude crystal radio in Ark) at night. There were words for that back then, bounce was one, second time around is another.

          I also watched Sputniks in the 1950s and they were not lighted.

          A UFO is simply something that you cannot identify but there are usually a simple answer. Here is one example.

          Northern lights enthusiasts got a surprise mixed in with the green bands of light dancing in the Alaska skies: A light baby blue spiral resembling a galaxy appeared amid the aurora for a few minutes. The cause early Saturday morning was a little more mundane than an alien invasion or the appearance of a portal to the far reaches of the universe. It was simply excess fuel released from a SpaceX rocket that launched from California about three hours earlier. The fuel turned to ice, and then the water vapor reflected the sunlight in the atmosphere, causing the spiral to be visible.


          Just my $.02.
          There's a Sci Fi short story based on this! They're doing an orbital discharge of material for scientific research purposes, but someone in the project has been bribed by "a major soft drink manufacturer" the venting nozzle has been micro etched into the company's logo! Being in hard vacuum the shape is maintained for a long time as the ejecta slowly dissipates. Its the world's largest lit up banner advertisement for the product every time it passes the solar horizon!
          Last edited by Phloating Phlasher; 04-18-2023, 12:12.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #20
            Originally posted by pcox
            The International Space Station is one such satellite. I think it's orbit is around 120 miles. I've observed it many times and it takes it a lot longer to cross the sky than what I saw Friday night. UFO? Probably could call it that, but it's bound to be of terrestrial origin, because as I've said before, if there were aliens out there we would be sending them foreign aid by now.
            And they would be registered Democrats.

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            • PWC
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1366

              #21
              First off, I don't believe in aliens.

              1972 to 1975 I was stationed at Langley AFB, VA. which shares a common runway with NASA Langley. The NASA side of the base was nearly as big as the AF side. Anyway, I have a hobby of amateur astronomy and the NASA library allowed us to check out books. I spent many lunch times there. They had a set of "Project Blue Book", appropriately enough in blue hard bound books; don't remember how many, but at least 6. I looked at them in random fashion, and must say they were interesting, and MANY of the investigations, accompanied with pictures, were unsolved open ended with no conclusion. Sometime around 1974 the books were removed or checked out and never came back for the rest of the time I was there.

              Now, the library check out policy was once checked out you could keep material until you were thru with it or someone else asked/needed it. I had their Norton Star Atlas for almost 3 years.

              As an aside; there was a Program on TV called Project Blue Book. Also, The Invaders....watch out for people with crooked little fingers.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #22
                Originally posted by PWC
                First off, I don't believe in aliens.
                Go to the border and you can see them coming across by the tens of thousands.

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                • RED
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11689

                  #23
                  FYI: the ISS orbits at about 256-262 miles and that varies by orbit. It?s speed is about 17,100 MPH.

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #24
                    You are probably seeing some of the 3,000 Earth-Link satellites Musk has launched. We were camping in a dark area when about forty of them "flew" by us a year ago. They must have been recently pooped out and were all in a line.
                    Speaking of speed, Voyager that's been traveling for 45 yrs now, is moving at about 40,000 MPH.
                    Last edited by dryheat; 04-20-2023, 02:15.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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