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  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #16
    The sub imploded during descent. Debris field was 1600 feet from Titanic's bow. Recovery of bodies is not possible.

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    • Johnny P
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6259

      #17
      Depending on the depth that the implosion occurred, there may not be any bodies to recover. If at a great enough depth where the implosion had a dieseling effect, there may not be any remains.

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10583

        #18
        There certainly won't be any whole bodies.

        Spending millions to try to save human lives was one thing and not an issue. I know the families of the deceased think differently but the few remains/fragments that could be retrieved now wouldn't be worth the cost , effort and risk.

        These people loved the Titanic. They are a part of it now.

        Time to pack up and leave.

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        • Art
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Dec 2009
          • 9256

          #19
          Originally posted by Allen
          There certainly won't be any whole bodies.

          Spending millions to try to save human lives was one thing and not an issue. I know the families of the deceased think differently but the few remains/fragments that could be retrieved now wouldn't be worth the cost , effort and risk.

          These people loved the Titanic. They are a part of it now.

          Time to pack up and leave.
          You are correct on all points Allen. Have a service and drop some wreaths in the water at the site. That would be my wish.

          I learned that the son of the Pakistani tourist on the trip was older than I thought at 19. I also learned he was apprehensive about the whole thing and didn't want to take the trip but was under a lot of pressure from his dad and an aunt to go. I find that part especially sad.

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          Originally posted by Major Tom
          The sub imploded during descent. Debris field was 1600 feet from Titanic's bow. Recovery of bodies is not possible.
          .....and the people on the surface heard it break up when it happen on their listening gear. It turns out the rescue operation was truly "hoping against hope."
          Last edited by Art; 06-23-2023, 07:05.

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          • Phloating Phlasher
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 508

            #20
            At an ambient pressure of 5,582.8818 PSIG (378.78 atmospheres)
            There's no recognizable tissue to recover.

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            • Johnny P
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6259

              #21
              The story of "Green Boots"

              Discover the chilling story of 'Green Boots' Tsewang Paljor, the dead body that serves as a guidepost for other climbers on Mount Everest.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #22
                So, climbing too high and diving too deep is dangerous. I figure, some of these folks aren't happy and need something large. Well, who is happy? Just one more hit, or if you have the funds..
                Diving deep and dying represents people who have big ideas and base their belief in the success of human development. Or, just bad decisions. Hey, we're only here for a short while.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10583

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  So, climbing too high and diving too deep is dangerous. I figure, some of these folks aren't happy and need something large. Well, who is happy? Just one more hit, or if you have the funds..
                  Diving deep and dying represents people who have big ideas and base their belief in the success of human development. Or, just bad decisions. Hey, we're only here for a short while.
                  These situations are already dangerous. Climbing too high represents thin air and extreme cold along with walking/climbing on steep and often slick rocks and ice.

                  As for the Titanic dive, they went 2 1/2 miles deep in a plastic boat whereas a multi-million dollar engineered steel sub can only withstand about 1000'.

                  Some places man shouldn't travel or even try but if the desire is there they should make better preparations.

                  Instead of learning by mistakes of others it's more of a "monkey see, monkey do".

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                  • dryheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10587

                    #24
                    Yes, just because one guy got away with it, doesn't mean it will work time after time. Never buy a new product that is 1.0- Especially if it involves drowning and being blown to pieces.
                    I guess there's worse ways to go.

                    Experimental Aircraft: was there ever a title that should raise the hairs a little?
                    I hope this works. Oh ****.
                    Last edited by dryheat; 06-26-2023, 12:16.
                    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                    • Allen
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10583

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dryheat
                      Experimental Aircraft: was there ever a title that should raise the hairs a little?
                      I hope this works. Oh ****.
                      Right, but as flaws developed changes were made.

                      Everyone that was interviewed that previously took a trip in the toy sub feared for their lives not only because of the danger of the voyage but because of what they were in and the short cuts the management was making.

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                      • Johnny P
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6259

                        #26
                        Mountain climbing seems to be the more dangerous of either going up as far as you can or down as far as you can.

                        “But when I say our sport is a hazardous one, I do not mean that when we climb mountains there is a large chance that we shall be killed, but that we are surrounded by dangers which will kill us if we let them.”

                        - George Mallory, 1924

                        No one knows exactly how many bodies remain on Mount Everest today, but there are certainly more than 200. Climbers and Sherpas lie tucked into crevasses, buried under avalanche snow and exposed on catchment basin slopes – their limbs sun-bleached and distorted. Most are concealed from view, but some are familiar fixtures on the route to Everest’s summit.

                        Perhaps most well-known of all are the remains of Tsewang Paljor, a young Indian climber who lost his life in the infamous 1996 blizzard. For nearly 20 years, Paljor’s body – popularly known as Green Boots, for the neon footwear he was wearing when he died – has rested near the summit of Everest’s north side. When snow cover is light, climbers have had to step over Paljor’s extended legs on their way to and from the peak.

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                        • Phloating Phlasher
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2023
                          • 508

                          #27
                          I've done some adventurous stuff over the years, Caving, including night & deep + wreck & Cave Diving, what nowadays would be called "extreme" camping & hiking & gliding/flying, using explosives & shooting.
                          I found that overwhelmingly the people doing these things were the most cautious, careful & safety oriented of any others I know.
                          The problem is the know little (who think they know everything) "cowboys" who actively court the danger. Remember "Xtreme Sports"? I was introduced to one of the competitors, he was PROUD of "having the body of a 60 year old" because of all the broken bones & other injuries he'd sustained. he was in his mid 20's!
                          I think evolution has restarted & its weeding out the low hanging fruit.

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                          • dryheat
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 10587

                            #28
                            382 or so. I met a guy like that once. He got peoples attention. The first gen X or whatever tattoos I'd seen. He had a couple of teeth knocked out. Space alien tattoos. Well, it wasnt a spider web on the elbow. He was dating the department generals daughter. That's what I heard. Anyway, when asked about his appearance and dental disorders he said, that's what you've got to do. That's a wild and crazy family. How did the kid turn out? I don't know. Hope he lassoed himself and took a break before the next move.
                            Last edited by dryheat; 06-28-2023, 01:19.
                            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                            • Phloating Phlasher
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2023
                              • 508

                              #29
                              I just don't get the same "Warm Fuzzies" from a home made jury rigged, using expired materials, & components way beyond their design limits Hand made submersible, that I do from a nice hand-made suit!

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                              • Allen
                                Moderator
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 10583

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Phloating Phlasher
                                I just don't get the same "Warm Fuzzies" from a home made jury rigged, using expired materials, & components way beyond their design limits Hand made submersible, that I do from a nice hand-made suit!
                                I think others would agree with you if they were still around.

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