It must take a lot of guts to buy a used Ev car ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    It must take a lot of guts to buy a used Ev car ...

    or a lack of brains. Talk about a Pig in a Poke, meaning
    the real possibility of hidden problems. The big concern
    would be the health of the battery among other things.
    How do you test it ? Under the hood is a mystery.
    Seeing as how you'd have to take out a mortgage in
    order to replace the battery, it's probably worth thinking
    about looking for a nice gas guzzler instead.
    "Better to buy a technology you know than one you don't "
  • JohnMOhio
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1545

    #2
    dogtag, I would have to agree with you. The only test would be if the battery has a full charge or not. I don't think there is a way to determine the useful life it has remaining. That is unless you can say that the battery is good for a specific number of miles. Probably the same for the "motor."
    Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.
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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #3
      On laptop computers the lithium battery can be checked as to how much life is left in it. Not amount of charge but actual life left.

      I'm sure there's programs to check expensive EV batteries as well. Something else to consider is: less life = shorter driving distance and shorter intervals to recharge. So taking a trip would require more recharging stops.

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      • dryheat
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 10587

        #4
        Batteries are interesting. The old D and C alkaline batts were a big improvement over having a carbine lamp on your miners helment. The Ni-Cad came along which, hard to believe, was initially developed clear back in 1899. Lots of work went into improving them. Those were the batteries that we used in our early mirrorless cameras and lots of other devices. I had about fifteen of them on different chargers all the time. They were kind of a pain. Then came Nikel-metal-hydride(hydroxide) that we use now for all types of things. Cars ran on them too. Then Lithium. Some countries have rules about what and how many different kinds of batteries are allowed. I think there are some couontries that still use NIMH. Lithium is expensive.
        If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10583

          #5
          Originally posted by dryheat
          The Ni-Cad came along which, hard to believe, was initially developed clear back in 1899.
          My Dad served during WW2. He often spoke about the batteries the military used that had nickel plates and how long they lasted. He didn't elaborate on what they were used in.

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          • Major Tom
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 6181

            #6
            I will never ever buy an EV auto of any make or model! I recently bought a battery powered string trimmer which does an excellent job and is lighter in weight than my cantankerous old gas trimmer. My 30 year old Husqvarna lawn mower is showing signs of discontent (major repair). Next Summer I will be looking at electric lawn mowers.

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10583

              #7
              Originally posted by Major Tom
              I will never ever buy an EV auto of any make or model! I recently bought a battery powered string trimmer which does an excellent job and is lighter in weight than my cantankerous old gas trimmer. My 30 year old Husqvarna lawn mower is showing signs of discontent (major repair). Next Summer I will be looking at electric lawn mowers.
              I see a lot of batt push mowers for sale and a lot of used ones for sale on Craigslist. Fill in the blanks.

              As far as riding mowers go I don't feel they are there yet. The zero batt powered mowers are expensive and so are the batteries.

              It all depends upon how large your yard is and if you want to continue to mow it yourself. As stated before, I am turning to batt tools too but for the larger tougher jobs they fall behind gas and elec.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #8
                I see battery powered shop tools everywhere. It seems so handy. I finally bought a pair of Milwaukee drills. They are pretty light weight but came with batteries and one extra plus the charger. All for about $200.
                Watch out buying them piece by piece: The tool is $100, the battery is $100 and the charger will be around $80.
                Oh, and beware buying used. You might not be able to find those batteries. They change after a while. I think Ryobi is known for keeping batteries pretty standard.
                Last edited by dryheat; 11-12-2023, 09:09.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • Allen
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10583

                  #9
                  Also avoid buying a number of different brands. DeWalt, Black & Decker (same company), Makita, Craftsman, Old Milwalki, Ryobi and others. The batteries should but don't interchange. Try to buy from one or two brands so you can use the same batt in multiple tools.

                  Personally I like DeWalt for the quality and Hart (Walmart) for the price. Both take diff batt's of course.
                  Last edited by Allen; 11-12-2023, 09:38.

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                  • oscars
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 551

                    #10
                    I bought an Eggo blower last year and regret it. Number one problem is the weight and balance. It weighs a bit over 11 lbs which double that of my Stihl. It is horribly uncomfortable to us with just one hand/arm.

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                    • bruce
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3759

                      #11
                      Bought a 2016 LEAF. It was about one year old. Local car. My wife happily drove it all over creation without a care in the world. When we needed to make a road trip, I cranked up the gas car. When my job moved me, we sold it b/c we were no longer in a city. Sold it back to the dealer for $500 less than paid. Ran it a little over 12,000 miles. Never made any difference in our electric bill. Amazing. Net cost for owning and driving the car was the $500. No other expenses. If we ever again live in a city/urban area, we will certainly look real hard at at least a hybrid or full electric. Sincerely. bruce.
                      Last edited by bruce; 11-12-2023, 09:52.
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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bruce
                        Bought a 2016 LEAF. It was about one year old. Local car. My wife happily drove it all over creation without a care in the world. When we needed to make a road trip, I cranked up the gas car. When my job moved me, we sold it b/c we were no longer in a city. Sold it back to the dealer for $500 less than paid. Ran it a little over 12,000 miles. Never made any difference in our electric bill. Amazing. Net cost for owning and driving the car was the $500. No other expenses. If we ever again live in a city/urban area, we will certainly look real hard at least a hybrid or full electric. Sincerely. bruce.
                        I think the timing worked out for you. You bought it used avoiding the depreciation and sold it back while the market was probably rising (on EV's). You didn't have any repairs or maintenance like tires. Most importantly, you didn't keep it long.

                        If I lived in a city (Lord help me) this is the route I would consider too.

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                        • Johnny P
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6259

                          #13
                          The EV batteries are just like all batteries. Each time it is charged it loses a small amount of capacity. Not covered by warranty unless something like in excess of 30% loss during warranty period.

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                          • PWC
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1366

                            #14
                            Had a people powered push mower, still do in the shed. Got stationed remote in Alaska. Wife and kids let the yards get ahead of them and couldn't mow. My father and neighbors told her to get a gas mower; she called and I said to get an electric. I didn't want her messing with the gass and oil in the garage plus pulling and pulling the starter.

                            She did, and bless her heart she put it together by herself and began mowing the yards. After 16 mo. I retired and came home. First weekend back my neighbor spent the whole time I mowed the front yard, trying to get his gas mower started. Gone thru 2 since 1984, always corded. Grandson hasn't learned yet the "finesse" of how to flip the cord out of the way for the next pass.

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                            • jon_norstog
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3896

                              #15
                              You could say the same about buying a diesel-powered vehicle used. As a snipe in the USCG I learned a lot about diesels, and especially that you have GOT to keep up on maintenance and that means by a mechanic technician who knows what they are doing. Buy new or don't buy at all.

                              jn

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