Silencer question

[5thDragoons]

Lyman,

I'm getting ready to join the silencer club. I realize the paperwork needs to be done and approved, but is the $200 tax still paid? I know there was some change but can't recall what it was. Same for SBR? SW

[Allen]

From the web:

"No, the $200 federal tax stamp is
no longer required for purchasing suppressors (silencers) as of January 1, 2026, due to the H.R. 1 "One Big Beautiful Bill" Act, making the tax $0, but the mandatory ATF application, background check, fingerprints, and approval process remain in place.

Lyman can no doubt add to that.

[lyman]

no,

silencers are now ''free''

you still need to to a form 4, finger prints, and passport photo,
and if a trust, supply the trust paperwork and responsible person paperwork


your local SOT should be able to help, if not, you have my email, shoot me a note or call (not sure if I have yoru number or not)

[5thDragoons]

Thanks! We have a couple class 3 dealers not far away, so I'll start checking with them regarding the forms and cost of cans. SW

[lyman]

go to the ATF website and set up a eform account, , you will get a log in name (probably first initial and part of you last name, and a group of number, like Swoodr1234 or similar,
set up a password and a pin

when you do the online form 4, you will need the login name and pin,
your dealer, if they do efile, and they should, can submitt everything online in a few minutes (word is the system is slow do to volume)

you can mail in the prints, but send it priority , or even express, since you have 10 days or so, don't rely on snail mail

[5thDragoons]

Thanks again! Forgot to ask - are SBRs also "free" now? SW

[lyman]

yes, SBR, SBS and Silencers , and I think AOW's

MG's are still 200

[5thDragoons]

Instead of that possible ivory "cutlass", I think I'll sink the $ into a can or make my PPS-43 an SBR. SW

[lyman]

be patient, the system is overloaded at the moment, tried to do 2 today and the system kept crashing, will try again early tomorrow morning

[5thDragoons]

I should have done more research in the beginning. Prices for a 9mm can seem to be in the $700 range. That's on top of a threaded barrel for my BHP. 22 cal cans are much more affordable @ 250 - 300. So I'll start the process of getting a can for my Ruger 22/45. SW

[Allen]

Just a reminder and it may not be an issue at all with a pistol but a silencer will reduce the "bang" but not any sonic velocity "crack". I suppose the barrel on that Ruger is short enough where this may not be a concern, or you may find sub-sonic ammo that will function.

I like revolvers and have a S&W 34, 17, and 617 (ten shot). I shoot the 22 shorts in them (and bolt action rifles) due all the unwanted neighbors I have accumulated over the years. It is no louder than a cap pistol. I buy the CCI CB/22 short ammo at WM. They are quite strong for 22's.

[lyman]

I should have done more research in the beginning. Prices for a 9mm can seem to be in the $700 range. That's on top of a threaded barrel for my BHP. 22 cal cans are much more affordable @ 250 - 300. So I'll start the process of getting a can for my Ruger 22/45. SW

I ran 2 more eforms this week, and both kept rejecting submission, this was after numerous tries

fortunately I wrote down the ID number on the form and was able to pull up the draft with that number, and both submitted, (one immediately, one after 8 tries) at 9am eastern

seems it is best to submit in off hours,

time wise, with about 20 minutes between submissions, the form numbers increased by over 1500

[5thDragoons]

Would have been SO much easier for everybody just to declare them legal. Ah, but the dems can't have their opposition smiling about anything. SW

[Robert Scott]

Always some idiot out there...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...uppressor-tax/

[lyman]

Always some idiot out there...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...uppressor-tax/

we have exceeded our quota on Idiots elected this last run,